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AML Clinical Trials | When to Consider This Treatment Option

 

How do clinical trials fit into an AML treatment plan? Dr. Eric Winer highlights the importance of clinical trials to advancing AML therapies and encourages discussing your options and trial eligibility with your care team. 

Dr. Eric S. Winer is Assistant Professor of Medicine at Harvard Medical School and Clinical Director of Adult Leukemia at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute. Learn more about Dr. Winer.

 
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Transcript: 

Katherine Banwell:

When considering treatment options, where do clinical trials fit into the plan? 

Dr. Eric Winer:

I think clinical trials are extraordinarily important. The way that I think many of us think about this is we want to continually do better, and have our patients continually have improvements. The only way we can do that is by bringing forth novel medications in order to gain that extra improvement. As mentioned, all of these small molecule inhibitors, every drug that we have out there, started off as clinical trials.   

We were able to gain benefit, and patients are able to gain benefit by taking part in these clinical trials. Not all clinical trial is successful to be fair, and different types of clinical trials have different scientific knowledge beforehand. For example, Phase I clinical trials tend to be more experimental. We don’t know as much about the drugs.  

Phase III experimental clinical trials are much more well-known. Then there are a bunch in between in terms of Phase I’s where we know the drug, but we’re studying more of a combination, but of these clinical trials, the purpose of this is to gain benefit.  

If we didn’t have a drug that we believed was going to be helpful, we wouldn’t be doing that clinical trial. So, while some people may think of these things as experimental, I think of them as rationally evaluating a way to target particular forms of leukemia to gain better responses. 

Katherine Banwell:

If a clinical trial isn’t offered, how can patients inquire about their potential options? 

Dr. Eric Winer:

The first thing to do is speak to their physician. Many physicians, if they have clinical trials, they’ll know the eligibility. They’ll know who is and isn’t eligible, and why they’re not eligible. That’s something that can be easily explained to people. The second thing is if there aren’t clinical trials available at that institution, then it’s important for the patients to talk to their clinicians, and say, is there a clinical trial available someplace else that might be good for me.  

Many of us field calls from other physicians, from other colleagues, who call us and say, “Hey, I have a patient with this particular disease. Do you have a clinical trial available?” We’re always willing to collaborate. The one nice thing about the leukemia field is it’s a relatively small field. We all know each other. We all realize that the purpose of this is to make patients better. And so, we all share information, and we all work together to try to get that accomplished. 

Katherine Banwell:

There are a couple of really good websites available too, to find out about clinical trials, correct? 

Dr. Eric Winer:

There are, and I think that by contacting different institutions that can be helpful, such as the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society is a good one. There is a national clinical trial database called clinicaltrials.gov.  

Those are all very important, but sometimes they can be a little difficult to navigate. And so, it’s always good to go back to your physician or your physician team and discuss these things to make sure that the clinical trial that someone is looking at is actually an applicable clinical trial for them.  

Expert Advice | How to Elevate Your AML Care and Treatment

 
 
How can patients elevate their AML care and treatment? Dr. Eric Winer from Dana-Farber Cancer Institute emphasizes the importance of actively participating in the care journey, staying informed about treatment plans, and seeking a second opinion.
 
Dr. Eric S. Winer is Assistant Professor of Medicine at Harvard Medical School and Clinical Director of Adult Leukemia at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute. Learn more about Dr. Winer.
 

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Transcript: 

Katherine Banwell:

This interview is part of PEN’s Elevate series, which encourages patients to take an active role in their care to improve outcomes. What advice do you have for AML patients who are seeking to elevate their care?  

Dr. Eric Winer:

I think it’s important for people to be an active participant in this care. While we recognize that not everyone has medical expertise when they are going through this, it’s important that they are informed that they would like to be informed. It’s important that they have a full understanding of what’s going on in terms of the treatment, the plan, the short-term plan, and the long-term plan. 

So, there is a lot of information that needed to be digested. What’s important to note is that it doesn’t all have to be digested at that very moment at the time of diagnosis. These are processes. What I tell people is that this is not going to be your only opportunity to talk and ask questions. This is something that we’re going to be going through and doing this journey together. So, I think it’s important that they become an active participant in that journey, not just with themselves but also with whoever their caregiver is, and whoever is important to them that’s going to be going through this journey as well. 

Katherine Banwell:

I understand that some AML cases require treatment shortly after diagnosis. Is there room for a second opinion, and if so, what are the benefits? 

Dr. Eric Winer:

So, there often is room for a second opinion. There are times, quite honestly, like you said, where patients have a really acute problem when they come in, along with the diagnosis, or that the diagnosis has gotten to a point where we need to initiate therapy as an inpatient, urgently. That is becoming less common. It used to be, when I started doing this, that if you had a diagnosis of AML you were admitted to the hospital, and you stayed there until you completed your first round of therapy. That is not the case now.  

Generally, what we’ve learned is that there are studies that show you can actually delay therapy for a period of time in order to make sure that other things are established. Getting a second opinion is very important, particularly as a tertiary care center where physicians specialize in these types of diseases. And so, I think it’s very important to get expert opinions, not just in terms of how to treat the disease but also diagnostically, and to make sure the correct tests are run, the correct molecular studies are run, in order to figure out exactly what would be the best treatment for your individual version of AML. 

AML Treatment Planning | Key Questions to Ask Your Doctor

 
What key questions should patients ask about their AML treatment plan? Dr. Daniel Pollyea provides key advice and emphasizes the importance of sharing symptoms, while also highlighting the critical role of a care partner for support and advocacy in AML care.
 
Dr. Daniel Pollyea is Clinical Director of Leukemia Services in the Division of Medical Oncology, Hematologic Malignancies and Blood and Marrow Transplant at University of Colorado Cancer Center. Learn more about Dr. Pollyea.
 
 

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Transcript: 

Katherine Banwell:

Dr. Pollyea, when choosing a therapy what questions should patients be asking their healthcare team about a treatment plan? 

Dr. Daniel Pollyea:

So, at the time of diagnosis I think it’s a reasonable question to say, “Is my disease amenable to a cure? Can I be potentially cured?” and “Is this treatment part of a plan for a cure?” If that is possible, then I would want to be walked through the steps that that’s going to executed. And if it’s not possible for me to be cured, then I would like to discuss what is the treatment plan that could potentially give me the longest duration of a remission and the best quality of life. And so, that’s the conversation that I think is important to have.  

And then, everything that we discuss comes into play there; an individual’s sort of appropriateness for intensive chemotherapy versus less intensive regimens, and also the disease biology and what that maybe make them a candidate for.  

Katherine Banwell:

Are there certain symptoms or side effects a patient should share with their care team?  

Dr. Daniel Pollyea:

Yeah. So, we have a very, very sort liberal request that really anything, it should be shared. We have a 24/7 number to call with one of us on-call at all times. So, it’s very difficult for a patient to kind of be able to appreciate, when they’re going through such dramatic changes, “Hey, is this expected or not?” So, we really emphasize oversharing concerns about symptoms.  

All these drugs have very different side effect profiles, and some of them are common and some of them are less common. The disease itself can cause symptoms and clinical issues. So, instead of really trying to educate yourself in an impossible way on what could be or is not related, it’s better just to ask.  

Katherine Banwell:

What is the role of a care partner when someone is in active treatment? 

Dr. Daniel Pollyea:

Having a care partner is crucial. This is physically and mentally extraordinarily stressful on the body and on the mind. Having that support person for those purposes is really important. Having that person be an advocate for a patient to ask those questions that may not be getting asked, to reframe questions to get the best answers is really, really important.  

And then, there’s the more mundane things; just getting patients to their appointments and kind of keeping their morale up and those things. So, there’s data and research on this that patients with caregivers, they have better outcomes. When it comes to a transplant, a caregiver is not an option. You must have a caregiver. And the importance of that will be sort of relayed to you in the context of a discussion about a transplant. But a caregiver in the setting of a transplant is so important that it is a requirement to even be considered for that.   

AML Treatment | Understanding Induction and Consolidation Therapy

 
How are AML induction and consolidation therapies defined? Dr. Daniel Pollyea explains these phases of therapy and how they are used in AML patient care.
 
Dr. Daniel Pollyea is Clinical Director of Leukemia Services in the Division of Medical Oncology, Hematologic Malignancies and Blood and Marrow Transplant at University of Colorado Cancer Center. Learn more about Dr. Pollyea.
 

 

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Transcript: 

Katherine Banwell:

We’ve covered this in past programs, but I think it’s worth reiterating. Would you define induction and consolidation therapy for the audience? 

Dr. Daniel Pollyea:

Yeah. So, traditionally when we only had intensive chemotherapy treatments, induction meant “Let’s get your disease under control.” That’s the first sort of line of treatment. “Let’s induce a remission.” That’s where that comes from. 

And then, consolidation meant “Let’s do more stuff, more chemotherapy to consolidate that remission,” or you can think of it as maintain that remission, deepen that remission. All those are sort of the same adjectives there. So, induction was step one. Consolidation was step two. We’ve retained a lot of this language into a time when we don’t only have intensive chemotherapy.

So, we’ll still use the word induction sometimes to mean “Let’s get your disease under control, even if it’s not with intensive chemotherapy.” So, admittedly that can be very confusing, but if someone uses it in that manner, that what they’re talking about is “Let’s get your disease under control.”  

And consolidation still meant “Let’s deepen your remission” or “Let’s prolong your remission.” So, those are the general terms. They’re very much linked to intensive chemotherapy, which we still use, but it’s not all we use anymore.  

So, I think it has gotten confusing, and it’s perfectly reasonable to be confused about that terminology.  

How Is an AML Treatment Plan Determined?

 

Dr. Daniel Pollyea explains the importance of collaborating with your healthcare team on your AML care decisions and discusses factors that guide an individualized AML treatment plan, such as age, overall health, and personal preference. Dr. Pollyea also addresses the role of common AML gene mutations when choosing therapy.

Dr. Daniel Pollyea is Clinical Director of Leukemia Services in the Division of Medical Oncology, Hematologic Malignancies and Blood and Marrow Transplant at University of Colorado Cancer Center. Learn more about Dr. Pollyea.
 

 

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Transcript: 

Katherine Banwell:

When it comes to choosing AML therapy, it’s important to work with your healthcare team to identify what will be best for you. Would you walk us through the factors that are considered when choosing therapy for AML? 

Dr. Daniel Pollyea:

Sure, yeah. So, we now have options in treatments for this disease and for decades, that wasn’t the case. This was a one-size-fits-all type of disease. And in the last eight years, that has completely changed.

So, there are approaches and diagnosis that vary between very intensive chemotherapy and less intensive treatments. What we call “targeted therapies” in some cases can be considered or be appropriate.  

And so, having a sense, after learning a little bit about this, of how much would you be willing to tolerate an intensive chemotherapy regimen and all the risks inherent in that, if that’s even being presented as an option, and if so, what does that look like? And if not, hey, what are the other options if that sort of doesn’t sound like something that you would be willing to accept? So, I think those kind of probing questions.  

First, asking yourself and then sort of translating that into your treatment team, into “Hey, this is sort of how I define quality of life.  

And these are some red lines that I wouldn’t cross,” that can really help the healthcare team because, again, this is not one-size-fits-all anymore. We do have several options to consider at the time of diagnosis. 

Katherine Banwell:

What other factors would you take into consideration? Do you look at age and overall health and fitness, test results? 

Dr. Daniel Pollyea:

Absolutely. So, the relevant factors at the time of diagnosis would be, as you described, age, to some extent. And there’s no magic cutoff. “When a person is a certain age, this is no longer a treatment.” But age just gives us guidelines. Other comorbidities, other disease that you may be dealing with, things in your past, organ dysfunction; all those things are really, highly considered.  

And also, sort of your own attitude toward “Hey, would I be okay with a month-long stay in the hospital or is that something that there’s no sort of outcome that that would be okay for me to withstand?” But then, the other huge part of this are things that are sort of, at diagnosis, unknown to you and unknown to your doctor for a little bit. And those are disease factors. So, what are the mutations that make up your disease? What’s making your disease tick? And now, just with normal clinical care, we have unbelievable access to this information. We can essentially learn within a week or two every relevant mutation that’s contributing to your disease.       

And that helps us tremendously with respect to prognostication, sure, but also treatment selection because there are some treatments that will work, we think, better with certain disease biology, and other treatments that will work less well.  

And we even have targeted therapies; so, based on particular mutations or other abnormalities, sort of a rationally designed therapy for exactly that disease biology. So, that is also a huge part of treatment selection, and we call those disease factors. 

Katherine Banwell:

Why is molecular testing important following an AML diagnosis? 

Dr. Daniel Pollyea:

Right. So, this basically just gets into what we were just discussing. So, that molecular testing is the testing that will tell us all the mutations that make up your disease biology. And so, that is crucial for prognostication, but also treatment selection.  

And frankly, also when thinking about how to potentially cure your disease, those will be factors taken into account to make decisions that are pretty significant, such as should you receive a bone marrow transplant at some point in the future or not. And the reason it’s so crucial to get this done at diagnosis is, after diagnosis, we start a treatment, and hopefully we put your disease into a remission. And at that point, we no longer have access to your disease cells.  

They’re gone, or they’re too low to even measure. And so, we need to get this information at diagnosis so that we can have it later on so that we can really understand your disease and make the best treatment plan for you.  

Expert Overview | AML Treatment Options and Phases of Therapy

Expert Overview | AML Treatment Options and Phases of Therapy from Patient Empowerment Network on Vimeo.

What are the treatment options and phases of therapy for AML? Dr. Gail Roboz discusses the various therapies available to treat AML and to maintain remission, the timing of these therapies, and novel treatment approaches offered. 

Dr. Gail Roboz is director of the Clinical and Translational Leukemia Programs and professor of medicine at Weill Cornell Medicine and the New York Presbyterian Hospital. Learn more about Dr. Roboz.
 

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Transcript: 

Katherine Banwell:

Dr. Roboz, would you provide a brief explanation of the phases of therapy for AML?  

Dr. Gail Roboz:

Yeah. So, here, too, I have to say that it’s more confusing than it used to be for the following reasons. So, historically and currently, we typically talk about induction as the first therapy that you’re going to get to get into remission. 

Then, the treatment paradigm is you do something to get into remission; do some treatment to get into remission. After that, in the realm of post-remission therapy, there are different things that can happen. There can be something called consolidation, which might be another round of chemotherapy. Some patients get consolidation, some patients don’t. After consolidation, there can be a transplant.  

So, you get into remission, you may or may not get a little bit of what’s called consolidation chemotherapy, and then go on to a transplant. 

However, sometimes either after the transplant or after chemotherapy before ever getting or instead of ever getting a transplant, there might be ongoing treatment in a lower intensity ongoing basis that is called maintenance.  

So, you’ve got to think about it as induction as what happens first, consolidation is something that happens when you’re in remission, and then maintenance usually refers to ongoing therapy that is different from consolidation. 

It’s usually lower intensity, easier to take, oral types of treatment that may go on and on. And just to be incredibly confusing, it’s different from something like breast cancer, where often the patients are given, “You get six cycles of this, and then you’re done.” From AML, there’s actually often not that type of an obvious plan right out of the gate for the patient. 

The answer will be, “It depends.” It depends. It depends how your treatment looks at this point in time. It depends how you look at this point in time. 

So then, the patients say, “Well, aren’t you going to cure me of this? What are you doing? Aren’t you going to get rid of it?” So, historically, there are some patients who get cured with chemotherapy. They get chemotherapy to get into remission, they get some chemotherapy afterwards, and there’s a cure rate for some patients with that. The majority of patients who are cured with AML get an allotransplant, or a transplant from somebody else. 

Then there’s a whole group of patients where we’re asking the question now, is it possible to get those patients beyond five years – so in oncology, five years is typically defined as cure. Can we get some patients with ongoing therapy to that past-five-year mark without a transplant? That’s in the zone of the ‘coming soon.’ Don’t have a ton of patients in that group right now, but hopefully we will. 

Katherine Banwell:

You’ve mentioned some various treatment types that are used to treat AML. Can you share a brief overview of available treatments? 

Dr. Gail Roboz:

So, the terminology that we use is a little bit annoying, because it is a little bit general. We say intensive and not intensive. 

But historically, intensive chemotherapy referred to a combination of generally two types of agents, cytarabine (Cytosar-U) and an anthracycline, which is a class of chemotherapy, that either just those two together or in combination with sometimes a third or a fourth drug usually keeps people in the hospital for around a month. Not that the chemotherapy takes that long, but the treatment gets rid of basically a lot of cells in the bone marrow, good guys and bad guys, and it takes about three weeks for those normal cells to recover. 

So, a standard intensive induction for AML is often around three to four weeks in the hospital, somewhere between three and five or so days of chemotherapy up front, depending on exactly what the protocol is. The classic regimen is actually still called 3+7, three days of one drug, seven of the other. But there are many variations of that that work. 

The chemo is then stopped, the patient hangs out in the hospital, very frequently getting transfusions and antibiotics, and we wait for the bone marrow to recover.  

Another current path that many patients are getting – almost all older patients, with ‘older’ being defined not by a specific age cutoff, but often 75 and older, almost everybody agrees no longer gets the classic chemotherapy that I just described. At some institutions, that 75 is going down, and even 70 and 65 and above are getting a new type of therapy, mostly because the new type of therapy is working pretty well. That is a combination of something called a hypomethylating agent.  

Drugs like azacitidine (Vidaza, Onureg) or decitabine (Dacogen) in combination with a pill that has changed the landscape of AML more than any other called venetoclax (Venclexta). Venetoclax is a drug that is not exclusively used for AML. 

It actually was originally approved for another type of leukemia. But I think that not many people would argue with the statement that what has changed absolutely the face of AML treatment has been this drug, because it’s a BCL2 inhibitor. What it does is it actually – cancer cells and leukemia cells in particular are very, very good at staying alive.  

They don’t undergo cell death, they don’t want to die, and venetoclax brings down their forcefield so that those cells can actually undergo apoptosis and die. 

Venetoclax in combination with azacitidine or decitabine has transformed the care of the disease, because many patients older than 65 – and the median age of diagnosis of AML is around 68 to 70. So, many patients never were well enough to have the intensive therapy. They weren’t going into remission, and they weren’t having prolonged survival often beyond a few months. 

But now, those patients do actually much better with the combination of aza [azacitidine] and venetoclax. So typically, the induction path is going to be deciding who gets an intensive therapy backbone, usually associated with long hospitalization. Who gets a less intensive backbone – by the way, that is often associated with just the same hospitalization. So, that’s why I don’t love the term ‘low intensity,’ because that implies that it doesn’t work.  

It does, and it also implies that you’re not going to be in the hospital. You probably will, because in the same way as for the more so-called intensive therapies, getting into remission involves getting rid of bone marrow cells and waiting for the normal ones to recover. Even if you are a patient who is getting the venetoclax combined with the azacitidine or decitabine, which is typically called low intensity, you may very well be in the hospital for a month. 

Because depending on where you live and who your family is and how sick you might be, you will probably want us to watch you carefully during that first month, but it’s worth it. Because if you have a good chance of getting into remission, remission is what makes life better and life longer. So, we want to get patients into remission, even if it means upfront time in the hospital. 

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What Is the Role of Bone Marrow Biopsies in AML Treatment? from Patient Empowerment Network on Vimeo.

What part do bone marrow biopsies play in acute myeloid leukemia (AML) treatment? Expert Dr. Andrew Hantel from Dana-Farber Cancer Institute and Harvard Medical School discusses the value and information gained from bone marrow biopsies, how AML characteristics can vary, and his hopes for the future of bone marrow biopsies.

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Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Hantel, can you explain the importance in utility of bone marrow biopsy as it relates to treatment?

Dr. Andrew Hantel:

Yeah, so bone marrow biopsies are one of the mainstays of our ability to understand where somebody’s leukemia is. And what I mean by that is somebody’s leukemia can be newly diagnosed, and we need to get a lot of the information about it. It can be somebody who’s after treatment, and we need to understand if their leukemia has responded to that treatment.

And that can take the form of, did the treatment work well enough to clear out all of the leukemia cells? And also after somebody’s blood counts have come back after the treatment has been completed, are only their good blood cells back, or has the kind of leukemia not responded adequately to treatment? And relative to the normal tubes of blood that we can get quite easily, a bone marrow biopsy,  which we don’t like to do unless it’s necessary, is something where we have a lot of additional information that we can obtain. And it’s both information that we can’t obtain from the blood and also kind of information that we can get to kind of a different degree of specificity than we can in the blood.

And so a little bit more specifically, what I mean by that is sometimes people’s blood counts will look relatively okay, and there can be a good amount of leukemia still in their bone marrow. And other times, the person’s leukemia can be in remission, but their blood counts can look low and abnormal.

And so we need to be able to tell which of those things is actually happening. And if we could tell that without doing bone marrow biopsies, we would do that every time. But, unfortunately, the bone marrow is kind of a little bit of a harbor compared to the bloodstream. And so to be able to actually look and see what’s happening kind of in the factory is really necessary. And there’s a lot of additional tests that we’re able to run, because that’s where kind of the cells are produced, and we can see at a much lower level if there’s are any hints of leukemia left.

There’s more and more interest in kind of getting good testing from the blood. And so that’s a very active area of investigation. And to be able to do that in the future, I really hope there’s a day where we don’t have to do bone marrow biopsies. But for right now, our only ability to tell how well we’re doing with somebody’s leukemia treatment is to be able to…it’s to do bone marrow biopsies and obtain kind of that really granular specific and kind of deep dive detail.

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Transcript: 

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Hantel, can you explain how insights gained from bone marrow biopsies impact treatment strategies for patients with AML? And how often might individuals with AML undergo these biopsies during their treatment course? And what specific objectives do these follow-up biopsies serve?

Dr. Andrew Hantel:

Sure. So bone marrow biopsies provide critical insights into the diagnosis and monitoring of AML. They help to determine the specific type of leukemia diagnosis. They help determine the effectiveness of ongoing treatments and to guide our therapeutic decisions. For people with AML, these biopsies are typically performed initially at diagnosis and then during treatment to assess response and sometimes add intervals to monitor for disease recurrence. 

The specific timing is really dependent in follow-up on what somebody’s counts are like, which treatments they’ve received, and what their options are in terms of future treatment, if that’s being considered. When somebody gets a biopsy, we look at the cells under a microscope. And we perform specific tests to look at the different characteristics of the cells like the DNA of the leukemia cells.

And together with the clinical information of the patient, such as what other conditions they might have and then their values, meaning what are their goals and what’s most important to them? The things we see under the microscope and in those tests can together inform us as to which treatments both might be effective and align with these other factors.

For instance, we had a patient last week who was in their late 70s, and the testing from their blood bone marrow saw that there was a specific mutation in their leukemia that would allow them to actually just take a pill instead of getting kind of a more complex and infusion IV medication for the treatment of their leukemia.

And so based on that test and based on that biopsy, we’re able to have that patient actually go home from the hospital and start that treatment as an outpatient and come back and forth to clinic rather than need to stay into the hospital for a different type of therapy and remain there for observation. And so understanding the results of these biopsies can really help patients and healthcare providers make informed decisions about the course of treatment and any adjustments to the therapy that might be needed.

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What Are Key Acute Myeloid Leukemia Care Barriers and Solutions?

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What are key barriers and solutions to acute myeloid leukemia (AML) care? Expert Dr. Andrew Hantel from Dana-Farber Cancer Institute and Harvard Medical School discusses factors that create AML care barriers, solutions to overcome barriers, and proactive patient advice to help ensure optimal care.

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“…patients and their families to be aware of where any specialized care facilities are near them, it might not be even so much geographically near as like within the same 10 miles, but it might be like, ‘What’s the nearest large facility that maybe is known for having clinical trials or other medical research?’ And just to reach out to them and ask, ‘Do you have telehealth consultations? What would it mean for me to come to you?’…and then talk to the actual physician who’s caring for them and say, ‘Is it safe for me to wait to talk to them, is it something where I do therapy now, and I should maybe go talk to them after I’ve received my initial therapy and have that discussion?’”

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Transcript: 

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Hantel, what are some of the key barriers that patients with AML encounter when accessing timely and effective care, and how can healthcare systems work to address these challenges?

Dr. Andrew Hantel:

That’s a great question. People with AML face significant barriers in accessing care, primarily due to the complexity and intensity of the treatment options that we have available. The landscape of those treatment options is really much different than it was even 10 years ago. We’ve had more than 10 novel drug approvals and extensions of treatments that are effective into groups such as older adults who have really previously had few good options and now have potentially many, and this has led to differences in what some of us call diffusion of innovation or how treatments are taken up and used by the medical community.

We kind of have some people who are usually at academic centers and are early adopters because they’ve seen some of these newer drugs and participate in the global trials, and then we have other community docs who see a lot of people with a variety of different cancers and kind of keep up with the literature, but to some extent aren’t as familiar with those new drugs and take some time before they start to incorporate them into practice.

And it is really important because in AML is not a disease that’s so common, so every oncologist sees patients with AML very frequently, and that kind of creates a difference between patients, people who are specialists, who are at the larger academic centers and people who are on the community and their need to really work together.

And this is a big point because treatments generally need to occur within a few weeks of diagnosis, if not much sooner, and therefore, all together this idea of new treatments kind of expanding out into the universe and also having the need for quick treatment means that geography really plays a crucial role in acting as a barrier to some patients getting what we think of as optimal care, especially for patients who live in rural or underserved areas that might not have access to these larger medical centers with specialized physicians, and then we also have financial challenges for those same patients and that getting into places is a major barrier, insurance to get to those places may have additional burdens that are placed in people with high costs that are associated with some of these treatments and healthcare systems have begun to address some of these challenges.

By really trying to enhance some local capacities such as through telemedicine consultations, kind of working in what we consider like a hub and spoke system where they have local providers reaching out to them and patients coming to them, at the time point of treatment decisions and then going back locally for a lot of their care, just so it’s not as burdensome in terms of travel, and then there’s also a lot of programs that are both within medical systems and outside of medical systems that are being helpful for patients, for financial guidance and assistance, such as through Leukemia & Lymphoma Society, which has wonderful programs, as well as kind of identifying partners for travel and housing grants and stipends that might be needed for caregivers, a lot of.

As I said, in a lot of centers like ours who are really trying to use any means possible to overcome these barriers for different patient groups, and a lot of it really depends on exactly what the person’s situation is, because so much of leukemia care is about the values of the patient and really how we’re targeting treatment, not only toward their disease, but really aligns with their goals, and so overcoming barriers is a really personal thing based on the values and the goals of the person who is in front of you.

Lisa Hatfield:

Great, thank you. And then one follow-up question I did have to that, as you mentioned that some patients are seen by their community oncologist, is it possible for a patient who is diagnosed with AML to do maybe one consult via telemedicine with a specialist in AML and maybe coordinate care that way, or do specialists typically like to have those patients present for regular visits?

Dr. Andrew Hantel:

Yeah, so I think the landscape of this is shifting in the past, I think no matter what, we have the idea that patients need to be safe, especially in the early days of their diagnosis, so it might be the case that somebody’s leukemia is diagnosed and they need treatment, it started immediately, and it’s not safe for them to wait, and it’s not safe for them to travel. But definitely there are other people who see their doctor and their blood counts are relatively stable, and the doctor thinks that it’s reasonable for them to get a second opinion, and these days, those opinions are happening yet still in person, sometimes centers like to see people in person.

But other times, as we said, those travel and distance and burdens can be so much that patients and these centers are turning to telehealth and other virtual forms of care that can at least provide a preliminary consultation and say, if you were to be seen here, we may have additional options like clinical trials or from what I’ve seen, I agree with what your physician is offering you and those more higher level decisions. And so it’s not so much whether or not even telehealth versus nothing, it’s kind of telehealth in person versus the need to get care immediately.

Lisa Hatfield:

Okay, that’s super helpful, thank you. And do you have an activation tip for this question, Dr. Hantel?

Dr. Andrew Hantel:

Yeah, I think the first thing is essentially just for patients and their families to be aware of where any specialized care facilities are near them, it might not be even so much geographically near as like within the same 10 miles, but it might be like, “What’s the nearest large facility that maybe is known for having clinical trials or other medical research?” And just to reach out to them and ask, “Do you have telehealth consultations? What would it mean for me to come to you?”

Those kinds of things, and then talk to the actual physician who’s caring for them and say, “Is it safe for me to wait to talk to them, is it something where I do therapy now, and I should maybe go talk to them after I’ve received my initial therapy and have that discussion?” And I think that leads into my kind of second or ancillary tip is to really don’t be afraid to ask your care teams about both of those things, and then about the logistics of what any of your care is going to mean in terms of the burdens of getting back and forth to clinic, having to be in the hospital and both for you as a patient as well as for your family.

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