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Can Race or Ethnicity Impact CAR T-Cell Therapy Response?

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Can CAR T-cell therapy response be impacted by patient race or ethnicity? Expert Dr. Sikander Ailawadhi from Mayo Clinic discusses some impacts to CAR T-cell therapy response for African Americans and some clinical methods to help reduce impacts to patients.

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“…there is a lot of work happening, research happening around how to predict and prevent side effects from CAR T so that the patients are much more informed, aware, can make an informed decision, and as clinicians, we can do whatever is within our control and is at our disposal to help prevent those side effects and make CAR T an even safer and more beneficial treatment for patients.”

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Ailawadhi, is there data around ethnicity and response to CAR T-cell therapy and whether genetic factors may affect treatment outcomes? And can the side effects of CAR T-cell therapy be predicted or prevented?

Dr. Sikander Ailawadhi:

So Lisa, a very important question of whether there are racial ethnic factors that can affect CAR T-cell therapy benefit or side effects, and what are we doing to prevent some of these side effects? We know side effects can happen, what can we do to actually prevent them? So I’ll take this question in two different subgroups. The first one of talking about racial ethnic groups or differences. So we know patients who are African Americans. This is one study reported that African Americans are more likely to have side effects from CAR T-cell therapy.

So while it’s not a specific “genetic factor,” but race ethnicity can sometimes be associated with more side effects, and that is just because these are very inflammatory delivered or inflammatory mediated side effects like CRS. It’s also important to know that there are certain other factors, disease or treatment-related factors, that can help predict potentially more side effects with CAR T. For example, patients who are very heavily pre-treated, patients who have a very high disease burden, patients who did not respond to bridging therapy that was given to them prior to the CAR T.

These are all factors where we know that side effects are going to be more, and the success of the treatment might be lesser. What we are trying to do to mitigate some of these side effects, there are now studies which are giving either some low doses of steroids as a prophylaxis before, right around the time of CAR T, so that side effects may not happen. Studies that are giving a low dose or even standard dose of what’s called tocilizumab (Actemra), toci, or tocilizumab.

This toci drug is an antidote for CRS or cytokine release syndrome. The thought is, well, why wait for the toci to be given after the side effect happens? Why not give it beforehand and prevent the CRS? Historically, there was a concern that steroids or toci given early on could affect the CAR T-cell viability or activity, but that’s not the case. For example, in lymphomas, there are clinical trials that have shown very clearly given prophylactic or preventative steroids could help. Using steroids or toci in a preventative manner is helping mitigate some of the side effects. 

Well, by preventing the side effects, we are being able to give the treatment in a way that the patients may have lesser side effects and can get it done closer to home or at home sometimes, and their time to stay in the hospital is lesser. You can imagine that some of these barriers are being further mitigated.

My activation tip for this question is that there is a lot of work happening, research happening around how to predict and prevent side effects from CAR T so that the patients are much more informed, aware, can make an informed decision, and as clinicians, we can do whatever is within our control and is at our disposal to help prevent those side effects and make CAR T an even safer and more beneficial treatment for patients.

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How Do Race and Ethnicity Impact CAR T Side Effects?

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How Do Race and Ethnicity Impact CAR T Side Effects? from Patient Empowerment Network on Vimeo.

How are CAR T side effects impacted by race and ethnicity? Expert Dr. Sikander Ailawadhi from Mayo Clinic shares some research study results about CAR T response rates and disease progression in African American and Hispanic patients and solutions for clinicians.

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“…there are some differences by race, ethnicity, specifically for the side-effect profile, patients should be aware of it, and clinicians who are the CAR T specialists should be aware of it so that they can manage the side effects well in their patients.”

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Ailawadhi, real-world data from one of the available CAR-T-cell therapies, ide-cel (Abecma), has shown some differences in the side effect profile and benefit by patient race and ethnicity. What is your take on this, and how do you utilize this in your clinical practice? And also, what do you think researchers should do next to learn more about how CAR T therapies affect different people?

Dr. Sikander Ailawadhi:

This is an extremely important question, looking at what is the data currently on the risks and benefits of CAR T-cell therapy in patients from different racial ethnic groups, and then how are we using that in the clinic today and where should the field go about research in this area. So, Lisa, you’ve correctly pointed out that this study that was published recently is based on some real world data from one of the CAR T cells available, ide-cel.

Now, I shouldn’t say that this is specifically to ide-cel, but basically, ide-cel has been around a little bit longer than cilta-cel (Carvykti), and so the real-world data on ide-cel was to the point that this racial ethnic analysis could be done, and it was reported. That said, we don’t know how cilta-cel would be. That data just does not exist. So, I’m not saying that this is applicable to cilta-cel or not, because at least this study was specifically for ide-cel because that data was mature enough to be reported. That was just a qualifier of this particular question.

Now, what that study showed was that some of the side effects, including CRS, the cytokine release syndrome, and certain markers that can be an accompaniment of CRS, like the ferritin or what’s called CRP, C-reactive protein, which are inflammatory markers. So, inflammatory markers were higher in African Americans, and the CRS was also higher in African Americans from that real-world data.

The other thing that it showed was that the response rates were lower in Hispanics, but the progression-free survival, meaning time it took for the disease to progress and require more treatment, was lower in African Americans or overall survival was same across the racial ethnic groups. So, side effects a little bit more in African Americans, and the immediate response, a little bit less in Hispanics, but overall outcome, similar across races. Now, this is important for us to know because African Americans tend to have certain inflammatory disorders more frequently, like even asthma is seen more frequently in African Americans.

So, CRS, which is an immune system mediated inflammatory response, I can imagine that some of it might be higher in African Americans. So, in our clinics, what we are doing is when we are monitoring the patients, every patient is getting monitored the same way, but when it’s an African American patient, we are putting a little bit more focus on those inflammatory markers that can sometimes start showing up even before the CRS happens. I don’t think the response rate portion of Hispanics that we’re really taking into account much because the overall outcome or the long-term outcome was not really different between races and ethnicities.

Of course, there needs to be much more research, so I think we need longer-term follow-up data, we need larger number of patient data, and what I alluded to in the very beginning, we do need data on cilta-cel also, which has not yet been presented, but we are hoping that it will come out very soon. So, my activation tip for this question is, that there are some differences by race, ethnicity, specifically for the side-effect profile, patients should be aware of it, and clinicians who are the CAR T specialists should be aware of it so that they can manage the side effects well in their patients.

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Roadblocks for Black and Latinx Patients From CAR T Trial Access

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Roadblocks for Black and Latinx Patients From CAR T Trial Access from Patient Empowerment Network on Vimeo.

What are CAR T-cell therapy roadblocks for Black and Latinx trial access? Expert Dr. Sikander Ailawadhi from Mayo Clinic discusses barriers that have been documented in clinical research and solutions and patient advice for overcoming barriers.

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Ailawadhi, there is so much promise around CAR T-cell therapy, but barriers exist. Can you speak to the roadblocks that prevent Black and Latinx patients from participating in CAR T-cell therapy trials that you have witnessed?

Dr. Sikander Ailawadhi:

Lisa, this question about healthcare disparities and access to care, especially based on patient race ethnicity, it’s very near and dear to my heart. I do a lot of work around this and also a lot of research. Not just for CAR T, data has been very clear over years and decades that in multiple myeloma and frankly, in all cancers also. Clinical trial access is dismal when it comes to African Americans and Hispanic patients. Unfortunately, a lot of that data does not even exist about Hispanic patients.

But the publications are very clear with, so we’ve had one publication of ours, and then there has been one other from national data where FDA-approved drugs clinical trials were evaluated. And it was noted that while African American patients make up about 20 percent of the U.S. myeloma population, less than 5 percent of them participated in clinical trials that led to FDA approval of myeloma drugs.

‘m not saying that is specific for CAR T. In recent years when the CAR T trials were happening, the numbers have improved a little bit. They’re still not the same numbers representing myeloma population in the US, but some improvements happened, for sure. The barriers to getting onto CAR T and clinical trials related to such resource and time intensive treatments are multifactorial.

A lot of times they are sociodemographic, patients need to take time away from work. They have to have a caregiver, they have to have appropriate insurance approvals for certain things. They have to be able to go to a center that may be close to them. These centers are hopefully going to be able to bring some other resources like social workers, navigators, et cetera, to help that patient get onto the trial. And then there is sometimes lack of awareness of CAR T, lack of awareness of clinical trials per se, clinical, and there are fears, anxiety, scares around getting on clinical research.

Lots of barriers, I think we can systematically take care of mitigating them. I would again say, just as I mentioned previously in a different context, one simple way of trying to overcome barriers or at least making attempts to overcome barriers, is to get to a center that specializes in CAR T, that specializes in clinical trials and speak with an expert, a physician who has a clinical trial track record.

Patients can research all of this, and if that falls in place, I’m sure some of these access barriers and some of these disparities can be overcome. My activation tip for this question is, please seek out a specialist center that specializes not only in myeloma, but also in CAR T and in clinical trials, and even at that center, seek out the physician who has part an experience of participating in clinical trials.

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Addressing Elevated Gastric Cancer Risks in Asian and Hispanic Communities

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Addressing Elevated Gastric Cancer Risks in Asian and Hispanic Communities from Patient Empowerment Network on Vimeo.

 How can higher gastric cancer risks for Asian and Hispanic populations be overcome? Expert Dr. Jun Gong from Cedar-Sinai Medical Center discusses H. pylori risk and screening and advice to patients to be proactive in their care.

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“…for the risk factors that are specific to the Asian and Hispanic populations is to understand the symptoms of H. pylori, which is one of the most common causes of stomach cancer, because they can be very effectively treated with antibiotics over a period of two weeks, oftentimes, and they’re very effective. This can be done at multiple provider levels from the primary care setting to the subspecialist setting. And also to know that symptoms, if they occur in family members that reside with the patient that is infected with h pylori or has stomach cancer, for them to be tested and the importance for their treatment as well.”

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Transcript:

Lisa:

Dr. Gong, what can be done on an individual and systemic level to address the elevated risk for gastric cancer in the Asian and Hispanic populations?

Dr. Jun Gong:

To address the elevated risks for gastric cancer in Asian and Hispanic populations, I think it’s very important to understand what are probably some of the universal risks to both groups. And here, there’s been growing evidence that H. pylori infection affects both Asians and Hispanics and is one of the more pivotal risk factors to address on a systematic level. Here, there have been ongoing research where they’re just identifying H. pylori as a procedure and eradicating it with treatment.

This is usually with antibiotic containing treatment for about two weeks. And this imposes what we call a primary prevention method if we can actually eradicate one of the primary causes of stomach cancer. Is this the best way to address the greatest risk factor on a systematic level for Asians and Hispanics and other ethnic groups at high risk? On an individual level, I think again, this comes to tailoring what the diagnosis is with the respect of ethnicity of the patient and their cultural and their background as well as their familial background. Here, H. pylori, dietary lifestyle, hereditary causes are important to address, to minimize risk for stomach cancer.

And it’s also important to know that on the individual level, that family members that are living with patients with stomach cancer may also have what we call H. pylori incidence around the entire family. So it’s important to advise that sometimes your family members, because of the close living facilities and the shared utilities and restroom and how we dine together, that this shares a familial risk. And oftentimes it may need to be that your family needs to be treated if H. pylori is detected within the family as well.

Lisa:

So if a patient comes in and their family members are concerned, would it be advised that maybe their family members can go see their primary care provider and say, “Hey, my family member has gastric cancer. Will you test me for H. pylori? Is that…would that be a valuable question to ask?

Dr. Jun Gong:

So I think that raises the big question about should we systematically test all high-risk subgroups for H. pylori? And I think the jury is still out on that. There has to be formalized guidelines. What I recommend is family members who are with another family member that’s diagnosed with H. pylori and/or stomach cancer, if they are having any concerning symptoms of H. pylori infection, this is usually abdominal discomfort. It can actually be gastritis type symptoms of acid reflux. If you have any of those symptoms, then those are certainly indications for you to be tested either at the primary care level for H. pylori.

My activation tip for the risk factors that are specific to the Asian and Hispanic populations is to understand the symptoms of H. pylori, which is one of the most common causes of stomach cancer, because they can be very effectively treated with antibiotics over a period of two weeks, oftentimes, and they’re very effective. This can be done at multiple provider levels from the primary care setting to the subspecialist setting. And also to know that symptoms, if they occur in family members that reside with the patient that is infected with h pylori or has stomach cancer, for them to be tested and the importance for their treatment as well.

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How Is Gastric Cancer Screening and Care Impacted by Culture?

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How Is Gastric Cancer Screening and Care Impacted by Culture? from Patient Empowerment Network on Vimeo. 

How can culture impact gastric cancer screening and care? Expert Dr. Jun Gong from Cedar-Sinai Medical Center discusses solutions for improving screening rates and patient advice for reducing barriers.

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Transcript:

Lisa:

Dr. Gong, how do cultural beliefs and practices impact the prevention, diagnosis, and treatment seeking behavior of individuals with stomach cancer? And how can healthcare providers better address the cultural barriers to care?

Dr. Jun Gong:

Cultural beliefs have a huge impact on access to care in stomach cancer, and I think we can do better with addressing cultural barriers to care. I think one of the innovations here at our center is that we have a center of community outreach and a disparities core here where we recognize that certain cultures and this can expand beyond Asians and Hispanics into all racial groups, that there’s a heavily…there’s an important influence of church in this sector here.

And so what we do is we actively engage leaders in the churches, in the local churches for Asians, Hispanics, and a lot of different other subgroups. And we find this a great, great relationship and partnership to have for promoting awareness and educating patients about resources that we have within a culturally specific location where patients and family members find a great deal of trust in the church.

And we also have other innovations as well. So this is more from…more of a day-to-day lifestyle from a clinical trial, a research perspective here at Cedars, we also have a designated specialist from a diversity and inclusion research group where we actually move along the disease groups from stomach cancer to colon cancer to other cancer types.

And we have this specialist sit in, usually in our weekly meetings. And whenever there is a new study, a new clinical trial, this diversity inclusion specialist will raise the question, what racial groups, ethnic groups will be of interest to hear? And how can we expand outreach and participation in these clinical trials? So these are some of the innovations that I think we can do to address cultural barriers to care.

Lisa:

Dr. Gong, do you have an activation tip?

Dr. Jun Gong:

So, my activation tip is that yes, there are growing and emerging concepts to address cultural barriers. I think one of the most important things is always for providers to be culturally aware that certain ethnic groups may have certain preferences with how news is delivered, how news is handled, how treatment is decided upon.

And additionally, I think it’s important for patients and providers to promote awareness and education in a setting where patients and family members are very comfortable with. This can be the church setting as we recognize the importance of this in the day-to-day lives of many patients and family members across multiple cultures.

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Are There Worldwide Links to Aggressive Prostate Cancer?

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Are There Worldwide Links to Aggressive Prostate Cancer? from Patient Empowerment Network on Vimeo.

Does aggressive prostate cancer occur more often in specific population groups? Expert Dr. Isaac Powell from Karmanos Cancer Institute discusses some regions with high prostate cancer incidence outside the U.S., the impact of inflammatory cytokines, and how screening recommendations may change.

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

So, Dr. Powell, worldwide are there factors that drive aggressive prostate cancer?

Dr. Isaac Powell:

Yes, let me address that. In 2015 it was reported that in Ghana, the incidence of prostate cancer was higher than in the United States. It’s also been found in the Caribbean, Jamaica specifically in Haiti, that the incidence in prostate cancer is greater than among African Americans in this country. So that takes us to the question of what is it about Africa that’s responsible for this aggressive cancer. And so I’ve been looking into that issue and finding that it’s not all Sub-Saharan Africa, it’s the West Africa. It’s consistent with the slave trade and what is it about West Africa and also Central Africa that is causing this. And I also found that in East Africa, the incidences of prostate cancer as well as breast cancer is less than West Africa. So what now we’re talking about the environment. What is it about the environment of West Africa versus East Africa. And the environment is in West Africa considered a rainforest and in East Africa is considered a different environment. 

The diseases are different. In West Africa, you have such disease as a malaria and yellow fever, acute inflammatory diseases, West Africa, I mean East Africa, you don’t have that you have other things. So it’s the environment of West Africa, the rainforest specifically that causes those particular diseases. Now the genetics is, in those poor inflammatory cytokines that we’ve discussed that causes prostate cancer and, in fact, other benign diseases to be more progressive, protect against these acute infections. So this is…the immune system is very complex. In some cases it protects, in some cases it drives the cancers. This is what is…therefore, cancer is what is called an autoimmune disease. And so what the protection does, it selects the population in West Africa. The population that’s selected, because people don’t die from malaria because of these high expressions of poor inflammatory cytokines but, they do then die from chronic diseases such as cancer because those same genes drive the cancers.

 Now, the worldwide scientific organizations have shown a map of West Africa and Central Africa where malaria is very high. That same map shows that prostate cancer is more aggressive in that same area where malaria causes diseases. So the environment has a significant impact on the genome. The environment specifically impacts what I mentioned earlier, the oxidative stress, which is activated by reactive oxygen species. The reactive oxygen species is what is called an unpaired electron which makes it inactive and want…and therefore interacts with various environmental factors. These environmental factors also will activate through RNA methylation. Those two factors are the part of the genome that interacts with the environment, and those two factors interact with pro-inflammatory cytokines. So there is a triangle there that interacts or interplays during cancer and other diseases, and that’s where the environment impacts on the genome causing more cancers in particular populations.

Now, in terms of European Americans, there’s a difference between the Northern European genome gene pools and Southern European gene pools and prostate cancer. And Northern Europe prostate cancer is more aggressive compared to Southern Europe. So it’s not just among people of color. In fact, the color makes very little difference in whether you have an aggressive cancer, particularly in Sub-Saharan West Africa as well as in European. So I just wanted to make that point. And not many people are talking about this, because this is what is called population genetics. Epigenetic, transgenerational, hereditary genetics, those genes are transferred through populations over generations. So that’s what I’ve been learning more recently and there needs to be more discussion about population genetics. We know about familial hereditary, but this is different. This is population hereditary genetics.

Lisa Hatfield:

That is so interesting. So do you think over time there will be recommendations for…I think it depends too on funding for it, but for screening in certain areas of the world for prostate cancer or for any type of cancer where they have found this to be the case?

Dr. Isaac Powell:

Absolutely. That’s going to be a little while, but that I think should happen, yes.

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How Can Advanced Prostate Cancer Disparities Be Reduced?

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How Can Advanced Prostate Cancer Disparities Be Reduced? from Patient Empowerment Network on Vimeo.

What are some ways that advanced prostate cancer disparities can be reduced? Expert Dr. Isaac Powell from Karmanos Cancer Institute discusses early detection, recommended screening ages for African Americans versus European Americans, and how some government agencies can aid in reducing disparities.

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

So, Dr. Powell, in your work, have you come across any innovative approaches or interventions that have shown promise in reducing racial disparities and improving outcomes for patients with advanced prostate cancer?

Dr. Isaac Powell:

Yes. Number one, educating the community about prostate cancer. Early detection is extremely important. I tell them that they should get their PSAs and digital rectal exams. I also tell them again, about obesity and exercise, how important it is to do that because it may prevent prostate cancer. And in terms of advanced disease, to just try to do the best they can and prolong in the survival by participating in clinical trials. And so I do quite a bit of educating in the African American community. In fact, in the ‘90s, we went to 51 churches, African American churches to talk about the prostate cancer and we also did testing. And what we learned in the ‘90s that mistrust factor was a major factor that prevented men from going in to be tested.

We also learned that men really don’t take care of their bodies as they should, and women have played a major role in the healthcare of men. So we start educating women about prostate cancer and encouraging their husbands to come in for examination, and very frequently, the wives have to bring their husbands in for testing or insist that they do that. I have this statement, I have a slide that says, men, they better care of their cars than they do of their bodies. And, in fact, they deny that they have any symptoms, and when they do, they don’t do anything about it until it’s too late.

Lisa Hatfield:

I have one follow-up question to that too, so you mentioned screenings, and I looked up prior to talking with you just to see what the general guidelines are for screenings for men, for prostate cancer, and it seems like they run the gamut. Do you have recommendations, or do you think the recommendations will change guidelines for screening and given your data and your research, is there a difference in screenings between European Americans versus African Americans?

Dr. Isaac Powell:

Yes. Because of what I’ve been talking about the cancer grows faster, and the significant cancers, the ones that are growing faster and become metastasized began in the 40s in African Americans, and so for European Americans has been recommended testing at age 50. I recommend age 40, American Cancer Society recommends age 45. Now, I believe at age 40, and I tell my patients that’s when they should start, African Americans that is, start testing for prostate cancer, specifically the PSA and digital rectal exam, and particularly if they have a family history. Now, the family history, if they only have one or two members is not much different than the aggressiveness among African Americans or European Americans.

If they have five or six members, not just a prostate cancer, but breast cancers as well, that means that they have a strong family history for having prostate cancer. If they have breast cancer, ovarian cancer in their family, or colon cancer, lung cancer, all those cancers are responsible for having a cancer and any specific cancer, if you have prostate cancer, breast cancer, you’re at risk for having colon cancer, for example. So that’s more recently talked about, multiple cancers in the family are even more important than having just prostate cancer in your family.

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Powell, given your expertise, what policy changes or healthcare system reforms do you believe are necessary to tackle the racial disparities in advanced prostate cancer care on a broader scale?

Dr. Isaac Powell:

Yes, policies are made by the government essentially. And so you have to encourage CDC, Centers Disease Control, US Preventive Services, which has done a disservice and prostate cancer. In fact, in 2012 they had that PSA did not show any evidence of preventing death from prostate cancer. They rescinded that 2017 recognizing that their recommendation 2012 was incorrect, and so US Preventive Services and the CDC, as well as the National Institute of Health NIH, have to come together and say, this disease is not only prostate but breast cancer, triple-negative breast cancer, colon cancer, lung cancer, all of these are more aggressive among African Americans, and we have to make a statement that screening has to be done earlier, education has to be emphasized.

And, in fact, COVID testing, it was almost mandatory on the circumstances that that happened. We used to demand that syphilis tests be tested if you got married. The government can also make it mandatory to be tested if your age, 45, American 50 for prostate cancer and maybe other cancers as well. So the government has to play a major role in establishing policies for testing, and I think that that would be very helpful in eliminating the disparity. 

Lisa Hatifield:

And then from the patient perspective, it sounds like, and just trying to clarify this to when you talk about screenings for a patient to get screened to the appropriate time, that includes both the PSA test and the digital rectal exam, is that correct?

Dr. Isaac Powell: 

Absolutely.

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How Can Advanced Prostate Cancer Care Barriers Be Overcome?

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

Are there any challenges unique to minority communities that hinder access to advanced prostate cancer treatments and therapies? And do you have thoughts on how these barriers can be effectively addressed?

Dr. Isaac Powell:

I do. First of all, the diagnosis has to be made. And so that’s made by screening, by the PSA testing and digital rectal exams. Now, some people are talking about, well, we don’t need to do the digital rectal exam. That absolutely is not true. You can have a very aggressive cancer and have a normal PSA. We know that the PSA is not 100 percent accurate in diagnosing, predicting that you may have prostate cancer sometimes.

And I’ve had several patients who had normal PSAs, abnormal rectal exams, and as a result, I’m biased with them. If you don’t do the rectal exam and you have a normal PSA, you may miss aggressive cancers. So definitely have your usual rectal exam, excuse me. And once after that, if you have a biopsy, and if it is positive, then again I think that aggressive therapy is the way to go, if you’re in good shape.

Now, people are afraid of cancer. I mean, afraid of surgery. I’ve had surgery, so I can talk to them about what I’ve had and what you go through. Men are also concerned about losing their sexual function and those kinds of things related to the treatment of prostate cancer. And I can tell them that the quality of life is okay after that because we have ways of treating sexual dysfunction, the pill that everybody knows about, as well as injection and penis and ultimately the penile prosthesis. So that can be fixed.

And the other issue of losing control of the urine, that can be fixed as well. And so those are the things I tell people about not specifically among African Americans. There’s the genetic and the biology that I have to discuss, but one of the things that drives these genetic cells is obesity.

Obesity can produce these pro-inflammatory cytokines. So I always advise them to, if they are obese, to reduce their weight and their fat, particularly belly fat. That’s challenging because people have difficulty losing weight. The other thing is exercise. Exercise is a key that I think it is the most important factor in treating many health conditions, exercise. And what exercise does, and this has been studied in breast cancer, it decreases the expression of the genes that I described earlier. In terms of prior driving the cancer and breast cancer, they’ve found it decreases the pro-inflammatory cytokines. I described the tumor necrosis factors IL-6 and IL-8. So that’s important, exercise. So those are the things that I tell patients. And now in terms of advanced disease there are clinical trials that are there.

And we do these trials to decide what’s the best treatment for cancer, even though we don’t have “a cure.” Now, the problem among African Americans is that they don’t trust these clinical trials because of the abuse that African Americans have suffered through slavery and all the other kinds of things when they’ve been treated as less than human, like animals being operated on without having any anesthesia and many other abuses that have occurred. And so there’s this major distrust now that’s very difficult to eliminate in the Black community, especially if there are very few African American doctors to take care of them. So what I think that we have to fix that question of distrust, and that’s going to take a while, but I talk to them always about this mistrust issue, because I can’t see everybody, although we do need more African American doctors and nurses to take care of them and to encourage them to participate in clinical trials and to be seen as a person who is going to be taking care of them in clinical trials, that’s very important.

Often we talk about access to care, but particularly African Americans that mostly live in large cities where there is access to care. But, in terms of one particular example that’s brought up on occasion is what has occurred in Baltimore and other big cities where I talk to an African American, you know Johns Hopkins is right in the middle of the African American community. So it’s not about access again, it’s about mistrust. And I said, “Well, why don’t African Americans go to Johns Hopkins?” Well, she says, “If you walk past Johns Hopkins, they may steal your bodies.” I said, what? I didn’t believe that, but I’ve been reading literature, particularly one called the Medical Apartheid where they talked about African slavery, where they dug up the bodies of slaves to practice the anatomy.

And so that’s where this idea occurred. At night, they would dig up the bodies and do this, and not only in Baltimore, but other cities as well. So again, the mistrust issue is very difficult to resolve because of those issues. And people talk about that, well, I just don’t trust the white healthcare system, period. And don’t want to go until they’re having symptoms, and then they have no choice. They have to go. And by this time, the cancers are more advanced and cannot even prolong life expectancy in those particular patients. So I’m not sure I answered your question in terms of what a person or what I would do to activate participation in the healthcare of advanced disease.

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Do the genetics of prostate cancer vary in African Americans? Expert Dr. Isaac Powell from Karmanos Cancer Institute discusses what research has shown about gene expression and what occurs in the body in African Americans versus European Americans.

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Lisa Hatfield:

So, Dr. Powell, I just read a bit about your really impressive research, particularly with regard to the biology and genetics of prostate cancer. Can you provide an overview of your research focus on how prostate cancer impacts African Americans in comparison to other ethnic groups?

Dr. Isaac Powell:

Yes, I would certainly love to do that. In 2010, we found that the cancer grows faster among African Americans compared to European Americans. And those are the terms we use now, as opposed to Black and white. In science, we use those terms. And so at that point, I thought that this may be driven by the genetics and biology. So in 2013, we used what now has been considered the artificial intelligence.

We use bioinformatics, which is computational biology, and gene interactive and network analysis to evaluate the cancer tissue. And so at that point, we identified, and we asked the question, are there genetic differences between African Americans and European Americans? And what they found were driver genes, driver genes being the genes that drive the cancer, that make the cancers carry out a function, a mechanistic function, as opposed to passenger genes that are just associated with the cancer, just as in a car, the driver is the one that controls the car, the passenger sits there. These passenger genes, yes, they’re associated with aggressive cancer, but they have minimal or no function. The driver genes are the ones that are controlling the cancer, the function mechanism of the cancer progression. And so we identified in our analysis 21 genes that were different between African Americans compared to European Americans, different in terms of the expression of the disease, not different genes, but different expression of the genes.

What we found is that African Americans have a greater expression of inflammatory genes and transcript genes. And I’ll be more specific about that in a moment. Whereas European Americans had a higher expression of lipid metabolism genes. Those are genes that are associated with fatty acids as well as unsaturated fatty acids, specifically omega-6 as opposed to omega-3. But there is a connection between these two gene interactions at one particular molecule called tumor necrosis factor. And this gene then interacts with both the lipid metabolism genes as well as other inflammatory cytokines. And the genes that we found that were more specific in among the inflammatory genes were the pro-inflammatory cytokines, and those were IL-6 tumor necrosis factor, IL-8, and IL-1B as well as CXCR4.

These are what are called pro-inflammatory cytokines and chemokines. And they carry out functions that cause the cancers to invade. First of all, the cancer initial is cancer cells are stuck together. We call them adherent. They have to come apart before they can spread and go elsewhere. Well, these genes cause that it’s called epithelial mesenchymal transition. And once that happens, they’re capable of being transferred to distant sites such as the bone. And they also cause increased blood flow to the cancer. They also cause the oxidative stress that is driven by a molecule called reactive oxygen species.

And we’ll come back to that particular molecule because that’s important. Once it causes the oxidative stress, this causes DNA damaged repair genes to develop as well as mismatch genes. This mismatch means there are gene molecules that are stuck together, and there is an order. This order is upset by this particular oxidative stress, and those are mutated once they are repaired, and they impact on the mitochondria, which is a molecule in the cell nucleus that controls the chemistry of the cell.

And then this activates cancer stem cells, which is really important. And this is where we are going now with the cancer research. So TNF, the tumor necrosis factor IL-6 and IL-8, and the IL means interleukins. That’s what that stands for. They activate that pathway, the oxidative stress pathway. They also individually activate other pathways that lead to cancer stem cells. And I mentioned cancer stem cells because that’s the reason why chemotherapy and immunotherapy and all the drugs that we’ve used don’t work because the cancer stem cells undergo mutations and these mutations change the character of the cell. 

And that’s why the cancer cells resist that after a certain period of time, now these drugs will work and prolong survival, but they do not cure them because of the cancer stem cells. And so the cancer stem cells, in summary, are driven initially by the pro-inflammatory cytokines. So my research currently is to, well, how do we inhibit these pro-inflammatory cytokines? And that’s where we are now trying to develop a drug. We’re at the stage of mouse at this time, mouse biology and testing the drug in mice, not ready yet for human testing. So that’s where my research is headed, and I believe that that is going to work if the drug works.

Lisa Hatfield:

So just a follow-up question to that is, as a if I were a patient of yours or a family member, I might ask, so with your findings, do you think that this could lead to a cure, for example, for advanced prostate cancer?

Dr. Isaac Powell:

Yeah. I hate to use the word cure. The word I use is that we, our goal is to eliminate death from prostate cancer. That’s the term I prefer, because when we talk about cure, we have to know what causes it in order to really be certain as we are curing it. Because I don’t know whether what we’re doing is going to eliminate death, but that’s our goal. So I don’t like to use the word cure, because that’s the magic word and everybody gets excited. So I don’t want to get people excited too soon. So that’s where I am with my research.

Lisa Hatfield:

Well thank you so much for that. And do you have an activation tip for patients for this question, Dr. Powell?

Dr. Isaac Powell:

Yes. I think that, again, patients need to take charge by asking questions about the therapy. Again, is it going to cure me, and is the chemotherapy going to cure, immunotherapy going to cure? If not, how long do we think that I will live? That’s a good question, that I’d like to know if I were a patient. In fact, I’ve had prostate cancer and bladder cancer, so mine was early, so we didn’t get into those kinds of questions. But I like to know whether is this going to be something soon or later? Nobody can tell you when you may pass away from any cancer. I never give a patient any time. If they ask me, “Well, am I going to live six months or three years?” I don’t know. Because everybody’s different. Everybody responds differently to these particular treatments. So, but ask the questions as specific as possible that you’d like to know about the treatments, because there are several treatments, and there may be many answers.

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Is there a higher graft-versus-host disease risk for some BIPOC patients? Expert Dr. Idoroenyi Amanam from City of Hope explains bone marrow transplant challenges for African American and Hispanic patients and where research stands on improving transplant outcomes.

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

Do certain populations have a higher risk of graft-versus-host disease after stem cell transplantation?

Dr. Indoroenyi Amanam:

Yes. So, we do know that there are differences in outcomes for African Americans and Hispanics compared to whites after transplant. And we think aside from just the fact that African Americans and Hispanics have a lower chance of having full matched donors, there are other genetic variations that we can’t account for currently that may explain the reasons why they have poor outcomes post-transplant. And one of those issues is related to graft-versus-host disease.

And so, we do know that if you have a donor who’s not a complete match, you have a higher risk of having graft-versus-host disease. And we also know that if you’re an African American and Hispanic, you also have higher risk for graft-versus-host disease. And so I think there’s still a lot of work to be done for us to really understand, one, why that’s the case. 

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What do myeloproliferative neoplasm (MPN) patients need to know about disparities in stem cell transplant outcomes? Expert Dr. Idoroenyi Amanam from City of Hope explains key factors that impact the outcomes of stem cell transplants and the importance of finding fully matched donors.

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Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Amanam, does race or ethnicity play a role in outcomes of stem cell transplantation?

Dr. Indoroenyi Amanam:

Yes. There have been some really great studies looking at this. And I think in general, we know that health disparities are a major issue for racial, ethnic, and socioeconomic disadvantaged groups. Stem cell transplant is a curative therapy for blood disorders. And we’ve looked at a variety of different, there have been multiple approaches to assess like where these disparities come from or if there are disparities from specific groups. And I think the Affordable Care Act was great in allowing expansion and insurance coverage to multiple groups and increased access to care. But that hasn’t solved the problem.

And so, one of the issues we’ve seen is that providers themselves do not refer patients proportionately. So from proportion if you’re African American, Hispanic, if you are coming from a ZIP code that your meaning income is lower, that there are some instances where referrals for transplant don’t occur in equal rates.

And we’ve also seen that even if you’re insured and you’re African American or Hispanic, referral rates are still lower. And so that’s something that, it’s something that we have to work to improve. And you know, one big thing for transplant is that you have to have donors. You have to have donors who are matches for these patients who have these disorders who need a transplant. And we do know that African Americans, Hispanics, and Asians have lower chances of finding a fully matched donor compared to white Americans. And so, why that’s really important is that when you look at rates of complications after transplant, we do know that the level of match of the donor does play a part in that. Namely the chances of the patient relapsing after the bone marrow transplant and the rates of graft-versus-host disease are significantly higher.

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Are there any myeloproliferative neoplasm (MPN) disparities seen in subtypes and genetics? Expert Dr. Idoroenyi Amanam from City of Hope explains what studies have shown, the role of access to care, genetics of African Americans, and questions to ask your doctor. 

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Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Amanam, can you speak to the disparities seen in MPNs and other subtypes and the role of genetics?

Dr. Indoroenyi Amanam:

Yeah, I think this is a great question, especially in the context of when we think about socioeconomic and racial disparities. I think that it is very important to continue to address those issues. I think the Affordable Care Act assisted in giving wider access to some patients who would not have the opportunity to receive care. But we have to go beyond the idea that race is a social construct. I think there are biologic differences. There are genetic hereditary differences between different groups. 

When you look at African Americans and you look at their genes and the median amount of genes of African descent. About half of African Americans have less than 80 percent of genes of African descent, which means that they’re biologically…there are biological differences that are related to their experience here in America and in the Western Hemisphere. And they have a more diverse gene pool, which may contribute or not contribute to cancers and other diseases. Other studies to really understand what are the scientific biologic hereditary differences and how we can improve those outcomes once we understand those. And so for MPNs, we don’t really have a good understanding of that, and I think that’s definitely a space for all of us within this disease for us to really improve upon.

My activation tip for this question would be, if you have a myeloproliferative neoplasm and you have some specific complications, and there are treatment options offered to you, I would ask your provider if there are any differences in outcomes related to if you are a Hispanic woman or if you’re a Black male, or if you’re a Caucasian female, I think it’s important to understand if there are potentially differences in the outcomes related to the treatments, and then you can maybe tailor your treatment specific to your ethnicity and sex.

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Are myeloproliferative neoplasm (MPN) risks and outcomes impacted by patient race or ethnicity? Expert Dr. Idoroenyi Amanam from City of Hope explains common MPN symptoms, potential risks and outcomes, and patient advice for optimal care.

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Amanam, how does race impact clinical MPN outcomes or complications? And are certain populations more susceptible to getting MPNs?

Dr. Indoroenyi Amanam:

Yeah, it’s a great question. I think, because of the fact that symptoms are not as clearly related to MPNs as opposed to some other diseases. So the major presenting symptoms for MPNs are related to high blood pressure or some other vascular abnormality, including strokes or blood clots. It takes a little work to diagnose MPN patients, and half of them are asymptomatic. And if you actually look at diagnosis rates, they’re one to three cases per 100,000 per year. And so this is very rare, and I think that we don’t have enough data to really understand if some groups are at higher risk to develop MPNs than others.

We have looked at incidences of thrombotic events in patients who have MPNs, and we tried to see if there was a difference between racial groups, and we didn’t. We did see that if you’re younger, you do have a higher risk of thrombosis over time, but there was no difference for if you were white, Hispanic, or African American.

What we did find though, in a small single center study is that if you are non-white, there’s a higher risk of death over time. And I think we still need a lot of work to get a better understanding as why that’s the case. So far we don’t have a clear signal for that, but I do think, in the same…the story that we understand for healthcare in general, there are some differences in terms of access to care, the quality of care that’s delivered in, you can guess that possibly that’s one of the reasons why that that affects African Americans and Hispanics disproportionately in this setting as well.

So my activation tip for this question would be if you have stroke, heart attack, blood clots, abnormal counts, please follow up with your doctor and ensure that you get referred to the appropriate specialist to help assist in managing your complications. 

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Renal medullary carcinoma (RMC) patients share some common traits, but what are they? Expert Dr. Nizar Tannir explains common traits seen in RMC patients and how families and patient advocates can work toward improved care for all RMC patients.

Dr. Nizar Tannir is a Professor in the Department of Genitourinary Medical Oncology, Division of Cancer Medicine at The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center.

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Cora:

What do patients living with renal medullary carcinoma have in common?

Dr. Tannir:

Patients living with renal medullary carcinoma have supportive families in my 22 years at MD Anderson treating patients with kidney cancer. And since we were involved with establishing an RMC program for research education and clinical trials treatment for patient with RMC, what I have noticed socially is these individuals have wonderful, wonderful family support. I can’t think of one patient with RMC and this has nothing to do to medicine right now, or about medical facts. I’m talking about the social fabric African Americans, because these are the people, these are the subjects who have RMC. The 95 percent of patients with RMC are African Americans in this country. People of the Black race. I am so impressed with their family support, not one individual came to me with…if it’s a teenager or even a young person without their mother with them, I am so impressed with that.

So they’re not alone that’s really what impressed me, what’s common about these RMC, patients with RMC is the love and the family support that these individuals, their mothers go a long way out of their way, they make it their mission to help their child and that child could be 18 or 28 or 30, and the mother is there helping them. They come from everywhere seeking the best for their child and that applies to siblings as well.

And, Cora, you’ve been, again, the support for Herman along his journey, I can’t think of any sibling who has done what you have done for Herman. So I can’t escape, but say, Black people have families who love them, they’re not alone and they support them, they’re able to get them to the top of the mountain, to the top of the mountain to the top of mountain to get them through the desert and the marsh and the oceans to get them to be cured if there is a cure that can be achieved.

And if not, they want to make sure they give them the best chance to survive. So that’s what I have seen in patients that’s common to patients with RMC. Unfortunately, there is another side of that story that is common to patients with RMC because they are young and many of them are either students or they’re working at different jobs, they don’t have…many of them do not have health insurance unless they serve in the military.

And that’s what’s been frustrating, we can discuss this later that’s been frustrating to see that young individuals with RMC want to come to MD Anderson, want to go to the moon if they can get the cure there, but they don’t have the health insurance that can give them access to the best place. And in RMC, it is MD Anderson. So I hope this will change. My activation tip is work with your congressmen and congresswomen, work with patient advocacy programs, raise awareness. Let’s get everybody the healthcare insurance that they deserve, like members of Congress so that nobody is turned away from going to the best facility that can help them. I hope before I retire that I will see this achieved. Because that’s really, I think if the number one on my list of things to do is this…is have equal healthcare access to everybody with an RMC diagnosis, so that they get the best care they deserve.

This is about, you’re talking about diversity, equity, inclusion. This is at the core, at the heart of what equity is. How can we be equal in the society if we don’t provide equal healthcare access to all our citizens, especially the young, especially the young the vulnerable, these people serve their country. They deserve to have the best healthcare or equal healthcare provision and like members of Congress, like the rest of us. 

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 Stem cell transplant can be an effective and viable myeloma treatment, but who is the treatment appropriate for? Expert Dr. Jeffrey Matous explains how stem cell transplants work and reviews factors that must be considered when determining if a patient is a candidate for this treatment option.

Dr. Jeffrey Matous is a myeloma specialist at the Colorado Blood Cancer Institute and the assistant chair in myeloma research for Sarah Cannon Research Institute. Learn more about Dr. Matous.

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Katherine:

Stem cell transplant is often considered for myeloma patients. Can you talk about who this treatment option might be appropriate for? 

Dr. Jeffrey Matous:

Absolutely, so we’ve known for decades that, what I call high-dose chemotherapy, also called stem cell transplant, is a very effective and very potent treatment of myeloma and we’ve shown that time and time again in clinical trials, including some recent ones that are published just in 2022.  

And so, high-dose chemotherapy and stem cell transplant is not for everyone. You have to be fit enough to undergo it, and this is not age-determined. It’s fitness-determined. And then, a lot of people live a long way from centers that perform high-dose chemotherapy and stem cell transplants. 

If patients have to travel hundreds of miles, then sometimes that comes into play. “Hey, I just can’t do this. I can’t get the time off, and uproot, and bring a caregiver, and travel 300 miles to get this care,” so sometimes that comes into play. Physician bias definitely comes into play. We know that some physicians are stronger proponents of high-dose chemotherapy and stem cell transplant, and I fall into that category, but we have other physicians that may not even bring it up as an option to their patients. We know, for example, that African Americans and other minorities are notoriously under-referred for high-dose chemotherapy and stem cell transplant. A lot of decisions go into that, and again, this is one of those situations where if you’re transplant-eligible, that means you’re young and vigorous, and on paper, a candidate. You want to go, at the very minimum, consult with physicians that do high-dose chemotherapy and stem cell transplant and hear about that option.