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Lifestyle Interventions and Cancer Care Outcomes Research

 

What’s important to know about lifestyle interventions and cancer care outcomes? Expert Dr. Jennifer Ligibel from Harvard Medical School discusses lifestyle interventions of physical activity and weight loss on cancer outcomes, controversy about body weight, and exercise levels during cancer treatment that show cancer outcome benefits. 

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

How can lifestyle changes impact cancer care outcomes? The answer may be more crucial than you think. In this Patient Empowerment Network RESTORE program, we’ll connect with a respected expert on the ground floor of this research. 

Dr. Ligibel, your research highlights the impact of physical activity and body weight on cancer risk and outcomes. Can you explain how exercise and weight loss interventions influence biomarkers associated with cancer risk and outcomes?

Dr. Jennifer Ligibel:

Absolutely. So this research is, I think, both really, really exciting and empowering for patients, because exercise and nutritional change are things that people can do themselves that don’t involve a prescription. But they can also be kind of confusing and leave people sometimes feeling like they’re not sure what the right thing to be doing is to support their long-term cancer outcomes. The truth is we do know that there are patterns that we see in society.

Like if you ask a lot of cancer patients, how much do you exercise and you track their weight. We see that people who exercise tend to have better cancer outcomes. So they tend to have a lower risk of cancer returning and a higher likelihood of surviving their cancer. For common cancers like breast cancer, colon cancer, prostate cancer, not as much evidence in some other cancers. We also know that people who keep their weight in a healthy range are less likely to develop cancer in the first place, and they’re less likely in some cancers, mostly the ones we talked about, breast, prostate, and colon to have their cancer return or die from cancer.

But what we don’t know is what aspect of lifestyle really drives these relationships, because the thing that’s complicated is that somebody who exercises more tends to have a little bit of a different dietary pattern than somebody who doesn’t. It’s not true for every single person. I’ve known marathon runners that live on Twinkies. But for the most part, people that exercise more are thinking more about their diets. They tend to weigh a little bit less, they smoke less. They may be going to do their screening mammograms and colonoscopies more often.

So it can be really tricky when you look at a large group of people and you just ask them what they’re doing and following them to make direct cause and effect relationships between one particular thing, like exercise or eating a particular food and their cancer outcomes. And this is one reason why my group at Dana-Farber, the research that we do really seeks to put people into interventions where we take a group of people that maybe aren’t exercising or they have a body weight that’s kind of above the ideal, and we help them to lose weight or to exercise more.

And we compare two groups of people that were the same at the beginning. One group took part in our program, the other didn’t. And then we’re able to kind of look more directly at whether these types of things affect their cancer outcomes, kind of what happens after their cancer is diagnosed. So we have some ongoing studies that are testing the effect of weight loss programs on cancer recurrence and breast cancer. We have some smaller studies looking at exercise and how that affects cancer. But the truth is we don’t a hundred percent know yet.

If we take a patient who’s not exercising or has weight in a certain range and we change that, is that going to have a direct effect on their cancer? We hope so, but that’s still something that we’re really studying. At this point, what we do know is that healthy lifestyle seems to be linked to lower cancer risk and better outcomes for people who’ve had cancer.

And I think the other thing that is really promising and hopeful is that there’s evidence that shows that even people that maybe didn’t have the healthiest lifestyle before being diagnosed with cancer, if they make some changes, they may have better long-term outcomes. So it kind of shows us that it’s not too late after cancer is diagnosed, but I think we’re still trying to really learn what are the particular factors for an individual person that are going to be most impactful to improve their cancer outcomes?

Lisa Hatfield:

Okay. Thank you. That gives cancer patients a lot of hope too, to know that going forward I can make some changes. In your randomized trials, how have you measured the effects of exercise and weight loss on cardio, respiratory fitness, and body composition in cancer patients? And what have been the key findings in their implications for patient care?

Dr. Jennifer Ligibel:

Absolutely. So we’ve done a lot of work in taking people who’ve been diagnosed with cancer and perhaps aren’t exercising regularly, or their diet is not as healthy as it could be, or their body weight is higher than the kind of there’s…a lot of controversy about the best body weight. But we, we kind of look at different levels of overweight and obesity and how they relate to health outcomes.

So we’ve looked at many different studies where we take people who might not have the healthiest lifestyle, and then we help them exercise more. We work, have them work with a coach or take part in a structured program. The first studies that we did really looked at, just how do you get people to make these changes when they’re going through cancer treatment or afterwards? Because there are a lot of extra barriers. We all know it’s not so easy to eat well or to lose weight or to exercise regularly at any point, but then you add cancer treatment to that, and it becomes more complicated.

So our first studies really just looked at how do you get people to do it? Is it safe? And we found indeed it was safe and that we could get large groups of people to engage in these programs. Not just people we enrolled at Dana-Farber, but people from all over the country. And that was really good to see that we could scale things that way.

Then we were interested in looking at some of the biomarkers you talked about, like what happens when somebody who hasn’t been exercising starts to exercise, or somebody whose body mass index is 27 or 30 or kind of in the higher levels showing that they have excess adiposity. What if they lose weight? What changes? So we’ve been able to show that people who exercise or lose weight have favorable changes in their metabolic hormones, favorable in changes in inflammation, which we know is something that relates to cancer risk.

And most recently, we’ve been able to show that exercise in particular has an effect on the immune system, both throughout the whole body and at the level where breast tumors form. So that’s been really interesting and helps to perhaps show us how is it that exercise could lower someone’s risk of cancer and really seeing how it activates the immune system. We’re also doing studies that then look at really big long-term outcomes, like whose cancer comes back and whose doesn’t. Those studies are really, really complicated to do. They involve enrolling thousands of patients, and they take 10 years to get the results.

And so, we’re still waiting for some of the outcomes of those studies. But the work that we’ve done so far shows that it’s safe for people to exercise and lose weight throughout their whole cancer journey, that it is also very scalable, not just to small groups of patients, but we can do this more broadly across thousands of patients. We’ve shown that when you make these types of changes, your metabolism improves, your risk of cardiovascular disease potentially decreases, then people feel better. We’ve done a lot of work with quality of life and fatigue and other side effects, and showing that when you make these types of changes the side effects of cancer therapy are often lessened.

Lisa Hatfield:

Okay, thank you. One quick follow-up question also as a patient. If you were telling me about exercise and how it might reduce inflammation, is that cardio or strength training or a combination of both? Do you have a recommendation on that for patients?

Dr. Jennifer Ligibel:

So, that is a great question and something that has been studied looking at different kinds of exercise. So there’s definitely value to both cardiovascular exercise, things like walking and running or swimming and to strength training. And that can be done using body weight. Things like squats and lunges, using weights, using machines. Strength training exercise is really important for maintaining muscle, and we know that a lot of cancer patients lose muscle, and that losing muscle is associated with losing function. So, doing strength training exercise is so important for maintaining your muscles.

A lot of the studies that have looked at how exercise relates to long-term cancer outcomes have primarily studied aerobic exercise, and that literature is really strong, that as little as walking three times a week can have benefits, long-term benefits in terms of cardiorespiratory health and perhaps even cancer-related outcomes. There’s an important place for both cardiovascular and aerobic exercise.

here’s a group, the American College of Sports Medicine, who tried to bring together all of the research from intervention studies. So studies where they took people and they put them on exercise programs to look at, well, what changes when you’re on an exercise program? And they looked at all these studies and tried to develop what’s called a fit prescription. So frequency, intensity, time, and type of exercise.

So to be able to tell people, “All right, what you need to do is 30 minutes of cardio three times a week, and that’s what’s going to help you feel better from a fatigue standpoint.” And so, they’ve worked out a couple of prescriptions for things like anxiety and fatigue that really are helpful in thinking about, well, how much do you really need to do to start to see a benefit? And in most of these studies, it was at least 90 minutes of aerobic exercise and a couple of strength training each week were kind of the minimal level of exercise where people really started to have benefit.

Lisa Hatfield:

Okay. That’s really helpful. Thank you.

Dr. Jennifer Ligibel:

Sure.

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Libel, how do you integrate quality of life assessments into your research on energy balance factors? And what role do these assessments play in evaluating the effectiveness of lifestyle interventions for cancer patients and survivors?

Dr. Jennifer Ligibel:

This is really important, because supportive care is designed to help people feel better. And if we are making people more active or changing their lifestyle in a way that doesn’t help them feel better, then we’re really not satisfying kind of the primary goal of supportive care interventions. And so, this is why we really make sure that we measure what are called patient-reported outcomes. So how does the patient feel as an integral part of the work that we do.

And so, most of the time these types of measurements are done through questionnaires where you ask people, how do you feel? How much does this side effect affect you? How much does fatigue impact your daily life? What about nerve-induced, what’s called chemotherapy-induced peripheral neuropathy? How much does that affect you? How much does that stop you from doing the things that you want to do? So we generally evaluate like, is the symptom present? And if it is, how much does it impact your ability to do the things you want to do? And I think that, when we see that people feel better that these side effects lessen as a result of interventions, that’s really what leads us to want to take things from being part of a research study to part of the standard care that we provide to our patients.

Lisa Hatfield:

That’s great. Thank you. You heard it here from the expert. Thanks for joining this RESTORE program. I’m your host, Lisa Hatfield. 

How to Create a Cancer Survivorship Care Plan

 

What is a cancer survivorship care plan? This animated explainer video provides an overview of the key components of a survivorship care plan, advice for collaborating with your healthcare team when preparing for life beyond cancer, and the overall benefits of planning for survivorship.

 

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Transcript:

Whether you’ve just finished treatment or are years out from your diagnosis, a Cancer Survivorship Care Plan can help you, your loved ones, and your healthcare team manage your overall health. 

So, what exactly is a Survivorship Care Plan? This plan is your roadmap for the next phase of your cancer journey. It includes information about your diagnosis, prior treatments, follow-up care, and it helps you and your healthcare team monitor your long-term health. 

So, what should your Survivorship Care Plan include? Here are the key components: 

  • It starts with a treatment summary, which lists the types of therapy you received, the dates of treatment, and any complications that arose. This information allows your future healthcare providers to better understand your medical history. 
  • The plan also includes a follow-up care schedule that details regular check-ups, screenings, and tests. These appointments monitor for cancer recurrence and ensure any side effects are managed effectively. 
  • Potential long-term side effects of your treatment are also noted in a survivorship care plan. Having this information can allow you to be more aware, so you can communicate any physical changes with your team.  
  • Tips and guidelines for maintaining a healthy lifestyle are also added to the plan and may include advice on diet, exercise, and mental health support, which can all support your quality of life as a survivor. 
  • Another key component is contact information for your healthcare providers, including your oncologist, primary care physician, and any specialists you see regularly. This makes it easy to reach out when you need assistance or have questions. 

Creating a Survivorship Care Plan is a collaborative effort. Schedule a meeting with your oncologist and primary care physician to develop your plan. Here are some questions to guide your discussion: 

  • What specific follow-up tests do I need? 
  • How often should I see my healthcare team? 
  • What symptoms should I watch for that might indicate a recurrence or new cancer? 
  • What steps can I take to manage any long-term side effects? 
  • Are there specific lifestyle changes I should make to improve my health? 

Once your plan is in place, it’s time to take action. Follow your healthcare team’s recommendations and attend all appointments. So, what other steps can you take to stay proactive in your survivorship? 

  • Regularly update your plan and review it with your doctor or care team. 
  • Set health goals with your healthcare team and plan for potential challenges. 
  • You should also seek counseling to address your emotional and mental health when necessary. Keeping a journal may be helpful too. 
  • And, seek out support and resources from advocacy organizations like the Patient Empowerment Network and Cancer Support Community. 
  • It’s also a good idea to consider financial and legal aspects: Understand insurance, explore financial aid, and prepare legal documents as appropriate. 
  • Maintain a healthy diet, engage in regular physical activity and incorporate enjoyable exercises into your daily routine. 
  • Take good care of yourself – Lean on friends, family, and support groups for emotional and practical support. 

Remember, you are not alone on this journey. By creating and following a Survivorship Care Plan, you’re taking an important step toward living well after cancer. To learn more about cancer survivorship and access support resources, visit powerfulpatients.org.  

Why Are Colon Cancer Cases in Young People on the Rise?

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Why are colon cancer cases rising among young people? Dr. Suneel Kamath delves into the risk factors, early symptoms of colon cancer, and the importance of consulting with your doctor.

Dr. Suneel Kamath is a medical oncologist at the Cleveland Clinic Cancer Institute. Learn more about Dr. Kamath.

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Transcript: 

Katherine:

Well, colon cancer cases in young people are on the rise. Do we know why this is happening?  

Dr. Kamath:  

Yeah, honestly, we really don’t to this point. We have a lot of hypotheses that we’re investigating to get to the bottom of that but it does seem like some of the usual risk factors for developing colon cancer later in life are still true. Obesity, sedentary lifestyle, a diet that’s high in red meat, processed foods. I do think to some extent the fact that we’re doing these things earlier and earlier in our lives. I think we’re seeing that the rates of obesity and overweight are not just increasing but they’re also occurring in people’s teenage years and in their 20s and 30s.  

It’s a time dependent process. I do think some people being at a higher than healthy body weight and leading a sedentary lifestyle starting at age 10 may lead to a cancer by age 30 or 40. I do think that’s part of it. But I do think there’s probably some other undescribed factor. We know plenty of people who come in who are runners and healthy, and honestly they’re healthier than I am to be honest with you and they still develop this for no reason. I am sure there’s some other exposure that we still need to identify.  

Katherine:  

What symptoms should young people be paying attention to?  

Dr. Kamath:  

It’s a great question. Fortunately, with early onset colorectal cancer, it’s much more likely to be on the left side of the colon, or closer to the exit, if you will. 

The good thing about that is the symptoms of it can be a little bit easier to detect. A lot of people describe to me that they have more blood in their stool. They found that they were straining harder than normal or having had a thinner stool caliber. I would also emphasize that these are often symptoms that go on for weeks and months at a time. All of us might eat the wrong thing for a day or two and get some stomach issues here or there so I don’t want people to overreact to every little symptom.  

Certainly, if you’re having constipation that’s going on for several weeks in a row, that’s often not going to be a benign thing. If you have that type of symptom and it’s persistent, definitely talk to your doctor and get it checked out.  

Cancer Survivorship | An Expert and a Survivor Share Inspiration and Advice

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How is survivorship defined, and what can one expect after cancer treatment is complete? Dr. Kathleen Ashton, a clinical health psychologist, shares key advice about what to expect in follow-up care and the importance of planning for the future. Dr. Ashton is joined by Erica Watson, a breast cancer survivor, who provides her personal perspective on navigating life with cancer, discusses the impact of peer support, and shares why she’s passionate about patient advocacy.
 
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Erica Watson is a breast cancer survivor and patient advocate.
 

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:

Welcome and thank you for joining us. With us today is Dr. Kathleen Ashton. Dr. Ashton, welcome. Would you please introduce yourself?  

Dr. Ashton:

I’m Kathleen Ashton. I’m a board-certified clinical health psychologist, and I specialize in working with patients with breast cancer and those with hereditary risk for breast cancer.   

Katherine Banwell:

Erica, would you introduce yourself?  

Erica Watson:

Sure. I am Erica Watson, wife, mother, grandmother, neighbor, friend, employee, sister, aunt, all those in addition to a, I’m going to say six-month breast cancer survivor.  

Katherine Banwell:

Congratulations. 

Erica Watson:

So, thank you.  

Katherine Banwell:

Well, welcome to both of you. We really appreciate you taking the time to join us. Erica, I’d like to start with you. When were you diagnosed with breast cancer?  

Erica Watson:

So, I got the official I have cancer, or you have cancer call on the 28th of February 2023. So, a little over a year ago.  

Katherine Banwell:

And how did you work with your team to decide on a treatment plan once you were diagnosed?  

Erica Watson:

Initially I went into my first appointment just automatically knowing that I was going to have a double mastectomy, because I just could not imagine having to go through any part of this process ever again. But then I settled, I listened to my medical team, we settled on doing chemotherapy first and then I made the decision on what type of surgery to have about a month-and-a-half to two months later.  

They allowed me to make the decision. And so, I didn’t feel any pressure or anything like that from them. So, it was really me listening to my medical team.  

Katherine Banwell:

Okay. And how are you feeling today?  

Erica Watson:

I’m good. I had my three-month appointment with my oncologist yesterday. I got a gold star on my blood work, it’s looking great. I’m good, I’m good.  

Katherine Banwell:

That’s such great news.  

Erica Watson:

Thank you. 

Katherine Banwell:

Dr. Ashton, I’d like to start with a definition. If you would tell us what the difference is and the importance of survivor versus survivorship?  

Erica Watson:

Sure. So, people define being a breast cancer survivor at different points along the way, and even different oncologists really think about it, dating it from different times. So, some people date it from when they were diagnosed. Other people will date survivorship from after they had their surgery or after they completed chemotherapy.  

So, everyone looks at it a little bit differently. But survivorship is really more of that process throughout someone’s life after breast cancer; taking care of surveillance, working with their doctors, ongoing lifestyle changes that they may be undergoing after breast cancer.  

Katherine Banwell:

And, Erica, what does survivorship mean to you?  

Erica Watson:

I am just living with a purpose now, I guess. I have not defined where my survivorship term starts or ends or starts actually. So, I’m intentional about laughing more and doing things that bring me joy and sharing my story.  

I try not to pay attention to the small things in life that used to get me all stressed out. I talk to my medical team, I ask questions, I dance in the mirror when I hear good music. I mean, I’m just trying to get the most out of life that I can at this point. And I wake up every day with gratitude, and I just go.  

Katherine Banwell:

Yeah. Do you feel like you’ve had to adjust to a new normal?  

Erica Watson:

Oh my gosh, yes. I tend to, I guess I’ll say question things a little bit more than I did in the past, and specifically as far as my medical team; I’ll ask if I can do a thing or another with traveling, whether or not I can exercise or sit in the sun.  

I have to pay more attention to my body. I have to pay more attention to the things that I eat, those kinds of things. Which I really didn’t pay too much attention to in the beginning, but breast cancer is a part of my life and will be a part of my life. It does not define my life, but it is a part of it, and I have to pay attention to that.  

Katherine Banwell:

Dr. Ashton, the next question goes to you. We often hear about the importance of creating a survivorship care plan. What is that exactly, and where do you and a patient start when you’re creating such a plan?  

Dr. Ashton:

That survivorship care plan is such an important part of the process. I think for many patients it really helps relieve a lot of anxiety. When you’re finished with your active treatment, there’s really a thought of what next, right?  

You’ve just gone through surgery or chemotherapy, radiation; you’ve been actively treating the cancer, and then you’re kind of left like, what is this new normal? So, one of the things we do at the Cleveland Clinic is patients have a survivorship visit.

So, it’s either with their oncologist or with a nurse practitioner, and they spend an hour with the patient and go through what are all the treatments you’ve done? What’s your plan for the next five years? How often do you come in to see your doctor? What kinds of tests are you going to get, what kind of scans? What you need to be looking for? What would be a sign of something to be concerned about? And then a big part of that plan is also the lifestyle changes that occur in survivorship. So, eating a healthy diet, exercising regularly, stress management, getting enough sleep. And that’s where as a psychologist a lot of times I come in.  

We have a group called Breast Cancer STAR (Survivorship Tools and Resources), so it’s a five-week program for our survivors to work on changes with lifestyle, stress management, all of those changes in their life moving forward.  

And that’s a virtual group program where survivors can talk to each other about that survivorship plan as well as learn some skills to take with them.  

Katherine Banwell:

It’s great to have that support. We know that this varies by cancer, but what is the typical follow-up that occurs when monitoring for recurrence?  

Dr. Ashton:

So, I usually would probably leave that question to the oncologist, and so many different kinds of breast cancer are going to have different kinds of monitoring. But very often that first year patients will check in with their oncologist every three months. They’ll have a breast exam at many of those visits. If they still have breast tissue, then they would have mammograms or possibly MRI’s. So, there’s some scans that go along with that. And many patients are also on ongoing medications or treatments that go for sometimes several years after their initial breast cancer diagnosis.  

So, they would be checking in with their oncologist on those medications at each visit as well.  

Katherine Banwell:

Erica, the follow-up care that goes along with being a survivor can be anxiety-inducing, or cause some call it scan-anxiety. What advice do you have for coping with these types of emotions as a survivor?  

Erica Watson:

As a survivor I will have my first scan next month, but I would just encourage survivors to just be okay with the process, ask questions, as many questions as they possibly can, take someone with them, which was suggested to me.  

I don’t have anxiety necessarily about the scans. My breast cancer was detected by pain or through pain, so I experienced anxiety with that, any kind of breast pain that I experienced from surgery or radiation therapy. And I also would just advise the patient or survivor to just experience the process, allow themselves to be afraid, talk through the reality of what’s really going on, talk through the fact that they had all the treatments, they did everything that was in their control as far as going to the appointments, getting all the care, to stop the reoccurrence.  

Katherine Banwell:

Right. Dr. Ashton, what can you tell us about the importance of peer-to-peer support in cancer care and survivorship?  

Dr. Ashton:

I think peer-to-peer support is so important for survivors.  

It really gives survivors the chance to talk with other people who really understand what it’s like going through this process. So, as a professional, I can tell patients the science and give them tools and what works, and their oncologists can tell them what’s important for them to do, but the lived experience is so important. So, in our group program they get some of that peer-to-peer support. And when Erica says, “Hey, it really helped me to bring someone with me to my scan,” a patient really hears that in a different way than when your professional tells them.  

So, it’s just that much more meaningful. There’s another program at the Cleveland Clinic called Fourth Angel, and it’s a national program that any patient can take advantage of, and it matches you with a peer mentor.  

And they often check in by phone with each other, someone who’s been through a very similar experience, and patients often find that incredibly helpful. And many patients that move into survivorship, then they become a mentor, and they’re able to help another patient.  

And that really feels good to be able to give back in that way.  

Katherine Banwell:

Yeah, that’s wonderful. Erica, you have a family history of breast cancer, so you’ve been really vigilant in your care over the years. What advice do you have for other patients and family members facing a cancer diagnosis? Where do you find your strength?  

Erica Watson:

Well, I got it from a handful of sources. I learned a lot on my faith. I talked to my family members who were diagnosed with breast cancer and that are currently living. I was not afraid to ask questions. I cried a lot. I just really leaned heavily on my medical team.  

I feel like it is so important as Dr. Ashton was saying to be able to reach out or connect with someone that has actually lived the experience, because I was one of those women. I heard it from the medical team, but they were leaning on science, and I needed someone that actually went through what I was going through. That allowed me to understand and to trust what they were telling me. Not that I didn’t trust my medical team, but the family members or anyone else that I leaned on to support actually lived the life that I was getting ready to live, experienced what I was getting ready to experience. So, that really helped me a lot.  

Katherine Banwell:

Yeah. As you navigated care, were there any obstacles or hurdles that you faced?  

Erica Watson:

Well, the main one that sticks out to me today was as an African American woman, I didn’t feel as if I had a lot of resources that were catered to me and my needs. And so, that kind of stifled my search for research or for resources, because I didn’t have an experience with women that looked like me, that talked like me, that lived like me, that would have experienced the hair loss like I experienced, my skin changes with the sun.  

So, those were the obstacles that I faced, and it was tough. Of course, I had my family to lean on, I have my aunt, my sister, but there are so many women out there that don’t have family members that have gone through breast cancer, and I feel so like it’s necessary for us to be able to see and to experience the diversity in that area. 

We make up a huge demographic, but we are just not represented the way that I feel like we should.  

Katherine Banwell:

Yeah, I absolutely agree. And I know that the medical community is trying to reverse this issue; they’re trying to make it easier and more supportive for people of all colors and races. Why do you think it’s important for survivors to actually be an advocate and help other people as they navigate cancer?  

Erica Watson:

I believe the most important reason is just so that they know that they’re not alone. We can, as a breast cancer survivor, I know it was – my first response was to just go into a shell and hide.  

I didn’t want to share it with anyone. Of course, my family did not, they would not have understood, and this was before reaching out to my sister and my aunt. But yeah, just so that we’re not alone, to know that there are other women out there that are experiencing and feeling the exact same thing that we are experiencing and feeling; the questions, the concern, the guilt, the fear, we just need to be able to know and connect in that way. So, I just – yeah, I’m so passionate about that, and that’s it.  

Katherine Banwell:

Yeah. It’s so helpful to know you’re not alone in how you’re feeling, in some of the symptoms you’re having, to know that other people have experienced the same thing is vital.  

Dr. Ashton, primary and preventative care continues to be essential regardless of someone’s diagnosis. What tips do you have for keeping up with overall health and well-being?  

Dr. Ashton:

Yeah, I think as women we often put ourselves last in the priority list. And for breast cancer survivors, well-being is incredibly important. And I tell patients it’s not an optional thing or something that you’re being selfish by doing, it’s actually part of your prescription as a survivor. So, the time that you take for stress management, whether it’s meditation or being outdoors or whatever brings you joy, is really part of your prescription for wellness in survivorship. Exercise is incredibly important. They recommend for survivors 150 minutes of exercise a week and two days of weight training, keeping your weight normal.  

So, all of the healthy eating, healthy habits are actually what’s going to help prevent recurrence. And they’re things that are in patients’ control, so that feels good too to be able to take that time and recognize that it’s an essential part of their health, not an optional part.  

Katherine Banwell:

Erica, what advice would you give to someone who is newly diagnosed with cancer?  

Erica Watson:

I would tell them to process, take some time, slow down, trust family members and friends, listen to their medical team, know and realize that they are not alone, seek resources, and just to know that it’s not their fault, because I dealt with a little, a smidgen of that in the very beginning of my diagnosis. And to understand that there is, that today’s breast cancer is not yesterday’s breast cancer; it looks different, it feels different, and that they can do it.  

That is something that is vital. I believe that we – I know when I was first diagnosed, I remember looking in the pamphlets and hearing stories, and I just knew that there was no way that I was going to make it. I couldn’t do the sickness, I didn’t want to deal with the hair loss, all the things; I didn’t want to do with the pain, all the things that came along with a breast cancer diagnosis and treatment from chemotherapy, radiation, or surgery, but it’s not like that today. And so, I just would encourage the survivor or the patient to just be aware, do research, but don’t Google as much research, because it’s not a lot of good information on Google; it will definitely scare you.  

Katherine Banwell:

No, that can be dangerous.  

Erica Watson:

Yes, it will, it will scare you. But most of all, lean on family members and friends, ask for help, which is something that I did not do initially, because I am a woman and I can do it all on my own, and that didn’t work out well for me in the beginning. But just seek guidance, just reach out to someone that they know, advocate, any kind of mental health resources that are offered through the hospital or even in the community through nonprofit organizations, to do all those things. And Dr. Ashton has really encouraged me and pushed me to think of myself, to put myself first and understand that breast cancer or cancer in itself is a disease.  

It’s sickness, it needs to be treated properly, and that’s what I would give them.  

Katherine Banwell:

Yeah. I want to thank both of you so much for joining us. And do you have anything else to add?  

Erica Watson:

Well, I’m very excited to hear Erica’s point of view as she goes through this process, and excited for her to share her experience as an African American woman. I think absolutely as healthcare providers in the system we need to do better, and I know her reaching out in this way is going to make a difference for someone listening to her story who is thinking about getting a mammogram or is starting to go through treatment. So, I just appreciate her today.  

Katherine Banwell:

Yeah. Erica, do you have anything to add?  

Erica Watson:

I just want to thank Dr. Ashton. I want to thank you. I just want to thank – I’m grateful and honored for the opportunity to be able to share my story. I am a true believer, and if it helps one person then that’s mission accomplished.  

And I believe in locking arms and let’s just, accomplishing the goal and fighting this fight together.  

Katherine Banwell:

That’s a great way to end the interview. Thank you both again so much, it’s been a pleasure.  

Erica Watson:

Thank you.  

Dr. Ashton:

Thank you.