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How Can Specialists and Support Networks Improve Myeloproliferative Neoplasm Care?

What can be helpful for myeloproliferative neoplasm (MPN) symptom management and disease progression awareness? Expert Dr. Andrew Kuykendall from Moffitt Cancer Center discusses education tools and interventions, support resources, and the value of both community oncologists and academic centers in MPN care. 

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“…I think there’s a distinct role for community oncologists and specialists, and really this should be something that works really well together.”

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Kuykendall, can you discuss any specific interventions or educational tools that have proven effective in improving symptom management and disease progression awareness for patients facing PV, myelofibrosis, and/or essential thrombocythemia? 

Dr. Andrew Kuykendall:

Yeah, so I mean, I think when we’re talking about symptom management, disease progression, awareness, one of the things I think is very helpful is to have an expert or specialist in your corner. And that doesn’t mean that’s the person you’re seeing every month or every two months or every three months. It means you’ve seen them one time at least, right? And you’ve been able to sit down and ask every question you have, right? It is very important as medicine gets very, very specialized.

Just the amount of information that’s out there on every single one of these disease states is impossible to keep up with. If you’re a generalist, if you’re treating everything, you just can’t be completely up to date on everything that’s going on in myeloproliferative neoplasms when you’ve got a colon cancer patient, a breast cancer patient, a pancreatic cancer patient, anemic patient coming into your clinic.

And so having that specialist in your corner really gives you that resource of asking some of these challenging questions. And I think that more than specific medications, I think what a specialist can provide is that education and that lifeline. So beyond having that specialist in your corner, I think that it’s also helpful to have a network of kind of colleagues or patients that you have as a support group or as a resource group to bounce things off of.

And so there’s a number of patient networks, whether it’s Patient Empowerment Networks or MPN Advocacy & Education International or Facebook groups or whatever it is, right? There’s a lot of different resources where patients can reach out and touch base with other patients or you know look for programs, educational awareness programs that are out there and really become an advocate for themselves and really drive their own care.

So when we’re talking about interventions, educational tools for symptom management, disease awareness, I would say seek out and have a specialist that you see at least one time that you can reach out to with any questions. And also build a network of some sort of patient group where you can access real-time education and resources and also talk with other patients about their experiences.

Lisa Hatfield:

Okay, thank you. So you mentioned having a specialist, and I also have a specialist for my particular blood cancer. I live in an area where we don’t have a multiple myeloma specialist, so I’ve had to go out of state for that. So one of my biggest fears when I did that, I have a very good oncologist locally. I did not want to offend him if I said I wanted to go seek out an expert opinion. Do you have any suggestions for patients who might be afraid to mention that to their community oncologist if they’re seeing a community oncologist? 

Dr. Andrew Kuykendall:

The first thing I’d say is that there’s probably nothing to be scared of. I think that community oncologists generally understand what specialists are there for. Honestly, it takes a bit of weight off their plate. If we spend an hour, hour-and-a-half with our patients talking about everything that comes with a diagnosis of myeloproliferative neoplasms, I think that’s time that, they can spend on other things in their clinic.

And they usually have very busy clinic schedules. And at the same time, I think that this is usually a kind of symbiotic or mutualistic relationship where both people involved or both physicians involved can really play a role and benefit the others. So I’m in Florida, and this is a big state, right? 

For me to get to Key West is going to take a while, for me to get to Tallahassee is going to take a while. Miami is a long way away, but I have patients from Key West and Tallahassee and Miami. And now with virtual medicine, we could do a little bit more virtual, but it still doesn’t replace the seeing the patient in person. And so I would say 80 to 90 percent of my patients have a community oncologist that they see that has my cell phone number or my email address, and is encouraged to reach out to me with any questions, concerns, thoughts. And when we see patients and we come up with treatment plans, I’m usually kind of reaching out to their community oncologists to say, hey, this is what we’re trying to execute, this is the plan.

Do you want us to help with that? Are you able to take it? Let’s work on this together. And so typically this isn’t something to worry a lot about if you really are concerned, I think one way is say, hey, I’d like to see a specialist to talk about clinical trials. And honestly, that’s one of the things that community oncologists are like oh, okay. Absolutely. That’s a great reason to see them. The two most common reasons for a community oncologist to refer someone to an academic center is probably clinical trials or discussion of transplant, right? And so you could say, hey, I want to talk about transplant, or I want to talk about clinical trials, and typically that’ll be a good reason to get in the door.

So yeah, my [ACT]IVATION tip for this is, I think there’s a distinct role for community oncologists and specialists, and really this should be something that works really well together.


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What Are Key Acute Myeloid Leukemia Care Barriers and Solutions?

What Are Key Acute Myeloid Leukemia Care Barriers and Solutions? from Patient Empowerment Network on Vimeo.

What are key barriers and solutions to acute myeloid leukemia (AML) care? Expert Dr. Andrew Hantel from Dana-Farber Cancer Institute and Harvard Medical School discusses factors that create AML care barriers, solutions to overcome barriers, and proactive patient advice to help ensure optimal care.

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“…patients and their families to be aware of where any specialized care facilities are near them, it might not be even so much geographically near as like within the same 10 miles, but it might be like, ‘What’s the nearest large facility that maybe is known for having clinical trials or other medical research?’ And just to reach out to them and ask, ‘Do you have telehealth consultations? What would it mean for me to come to you?’…and then talk to the actual physician who’s caring for them and say, ‘Is it safe for me to wait to talk to them, is it something where I do therapy now, and I should maybe go talk to them after I’ve received my initial therapy and have that discussion?’”

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Transcript: 

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Hantel, what are some of the key barriers that patients with AML encounter when accessing timely and effective care, and how can healthcare systems work to address these challenges?

Dr. Andrew Hantel:

That’s a great question. People with AML face significant barriers in accessing care, primarily due to the complexity and intensity of the treatment options that we have available. The landscape of those treatment options is really much different than it was even 10 years ago. We’ve had more than 10 novel drug approvals and extensions of treatments that are effective into groups such as older adults who have really previously had few good options and now have potentially many, and this has led to differences in what some of us call diffusion of innovation or how treatments are taken up and used by the medical community.

We kind of have some people who are usually at academic centers and are early adopters because they’ve seen some of these newer drugs and participate in the global trials, and then we have other community docs who see a lot of people with a variety of different cancers and kind of keep up with the literature, but to some extent aren’t as familiar with those new drugs and take some time before they start to incorporate them into practice.

And it is really important because in AML is not a disease that’s so common, so every oncologist sees patients with AML very frequently, and that kind of creates a difference between patients, people who are specialists, who are at the larger academic centers and people who are on the community and their need to really work together.

And this is a big point because treatments generally need to occur within a few weeks of diagnosis, if not much sooner, and therefore, all together this idea of new treatments kind of expanding out into the universe and also having the need for quick treatment means that geography really plays a crucial role in acting as a barrier to some patients getting what we think of as optimal care, especially for patients who live in rural or underserved areas that might not have access to these larger medical centers with specialized physicians, and then we also have financial challenges for those same patients and that getting into places is a major barrier, insurance to get to those places may have additional burdens that are placed in people with high costs that are associated with some of these treatments and healthcare systems have begun to address some of these challenges.

By really trying to enhance some local capacities such as through telemedicine consultations, kind of working in what we consider like a hub and spoke system where they have local providers reaching out to them and patients coming to them, at the time point of treatment decisions and then going back locally for a lot of their care, just so it’s not as burdensome in terms of travel, and then there’s also a lot of programs that are both within medical systems and outside of medical systems that are being helpful for patients, for financial guidance and assistance, such as through Leukemia & Lymphoma Society, which has wonderful programs, as well as kind of identifying partners for travel and housing grants and stipends that might be needed for caregivers, a lot of.

As I said, in a lot of centers like ours who are really trying to use any means possible to overcome these barriers for different patient groups, and a lot of it really depends on exactly what the person’s situation is, because so much of leukemia care is about the values of the patient and really how we’re targeting treatment, not only toward their disease, but really aligns with their goals, and so overcoming barriers is a really personal thing based on the values and the goals of the person who is in front of you.

Lisa Hatfield:

Great, thank you. And then one follow-up question I did have to that, as you mentioned that some patients are seen by their community oncologist, is it possible for a patient who is diagnosed with AML to do maybe one consult via telemedicine with a specialist in AML and maybe coordinate care that way, or do specialists typically like to have those patients present for regular visits?

Dr. Andrew Hantel:

Yeah, so I think the landscape of this is shifting in the past, I think no matter what, we have the idea that patients need to be safe, especially in the early days of their diagnosis, so it might be the case that somebody’s leukemia is diagnosed and they need treatment, it started immediately, and it’s not safe for them to wait, and it’s not safe for them to travel. But definitely there are other people who see their doctor and their blood counts are relatively stable, and the doctor thinks that it’s reasonable for them to get a second opinion, and these days, those opinions are happening yet still in person, sometimes centers like to see people in person.

But other times, as we said, those travel and distance and burdens can be so much that patients and these centers are turning to telehealth and other virtual forms of care that can at least provide a preliminary consultation and say, if you were to be seen here, we may have additional options like clinical trials or from what I’ve seen, I agree with what your physician is offering you and those more higher level decisions. And so it’s not so much whether or not even telehealth versus nothing, it’s kind of telehealth in person versus the need to get care immediately.

Lisa Hatfield:

Okay, that’s super helpful, thank you. And do you have an activation tip for this question, Dr. Hantel?

Dr. Andrew Hantel:

Yeah, I think the first thing is essentially just for patients and their families to be aware of where any specialized care facilities are near them, it might not be even so much geographically near as like within the same 10 miles, but it might be like, “What’s the nearest large facility that maybe is known for having clinical trials or other medical research?” And just to reach out to them and ask, “Do you have telehealth consultations? What would it mean for me to come to you?”

Those kinds of things, and then talk to the actual physician who’s caring for them and say, “Is it safe for me to wait to talk to them, is it something where I do therapy now, and I should maybe go talk to them after I’ve received my initial therapy and have that discussion?” And I think that leads into my kind of second or ancillary tip is to really don’t be afraid to ask your care teams about both of those things, and then about the logistics of what any of your care is going to mean in terms of the burdens of getting back and forth to clinic, having to be in the hospital and both for you as a patient as well as for your family.

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What Are the Advantages of Seeking Care With a Lung Cancer Specialist?

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What are the benefits of seeing a lung cancer specialist? Dr. Thomas Marron discusses the key advantages of specialty care, the value of a second opinion, and options for seeing a lung cancer specialist via telemedicine.

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:

What’s the advantage then of seeking care with a lung cancer specialist? 

Dr. Thomas Marron:

So, I think it’s extremely important. Unfortunately, a lot of the country, there are not lung cancer specialists available around the corner. But in large cities, there’s typically many lung cancer specialists, but I think it’s extremely important, at least as a second opinion, even if you’re not going to be treated locally by a lung cancer specialist, to seek out expertise.  

And often times, I’ll have patients that come from more rural areas outside of New York and they’ll come, and they’ll see me and then I’ll work with their local provider to come up with a treatment plan. Because the fact of the matter is, is that in every cancer type, but particularly in lung cancer, the field is moving so quickly. So, the treatment options that we have available today were not available in 2022.  

And we’re going to have probably five to 10 drugs that’re going  to be FDA-approved in the next year. And it’s typically the lung cancer specialist where it’s all that we do, we eat, breathe and live lung cancer, we’re the ones that really are up to date on everything. While if you’re seeing a general hematology, oncology provider who I’m always in awe of, they have to stay up to date on lung cancer, breast cancer, lymphoma, leukemia, everything under the sun.  

And when you have so much development in the research that’s happening, you really want to be talking to somebody, at least as a second opinion that knows exactly what the most latest data is and what the best options are available. And also, those lung cancer providers are usually the ones that will know exactly where you can go to get access to certain clinical trials.  

Katherine Banwell:

In seeking a second opinion, can somebody do a tele-visit, or do you have to actually, physically go to see the specialist? 

Dr. Thomas Marron:

So, it depends on the specialist that you’re trying to see.  

There are certain institutions that will allow you to do televisits. Oftentimes doctors, at least for their first encounter with a patient really want to see somebody in person, just so that we can really evaluate how functional somebody is. There’s a lot that I cannot tell through my computer screen, through my Zoom call with a patient.

And so, it can be a little bit difficult, but there are many centers, including our own that will offer patients televisits as a second opinion, for us to get a chance to talk to them about their medical history, review, the treatment decisions that they’ve had in the past or the current treatment decision that they’re dealing with and give our own opinion on what they should do.  

Health Educator Turned MPN Patient Speaks to Importance of Specialized Care

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Myeloproliferative neoplasm (MPN) patient and health educator Julia Olff helped others navigate the healthcare system before her diagnosis with myelofibrosis and later with ET. Watch as she shares her unique experience and how finding MPN specialists can help patients in receiving optimal care.  

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Julia Olff:

Well, as a health educator and as a former hospital administrator when I was diagnosed with myelofibrosis, I feel like I had a particular reaction to the diagnosis that might be different from others who didn’t work in healthcare. I was both fascinated, which may sound really bizarre, that I was being diagnosed with an illness that I did not feel. Also, an illness I had not heard of, although I knew about some of the treatments that might be proposed because of my work as a health educator. So, I feel like I kind of went into health educator mode and health navigator mode, and that gave me a leg up in terms of knowing very early on, that once my ET transformed to myelofibrosis, I knew that I needed to see an MPN expert. And because I worked on health education because I worked in hospitals, I understood that I want, I needed to see a physician who had a depth of expertise, who had a volume of patients, who had a lot of experience with the drugs that existed. Although, in 2008, there was no approved, drug for myelofibrosis, but I knew I needed to go to the place where there was…

Where I had a better chance of getting the latest treatment, and I was diagnosed by a community oncologist who was lovely and one of the nicest people, and one of the nicest physicians I’ve seen, but it was clear he was not steeped in MPNs, because he treated patients across a spectrum of cancers. So, in that way, I think I started out in a different place, I also know that hospitals and healthcare can be very overwhelming, and I had a bit of the language and the world and some of the sort of…I understood a little bit more, I think about what my physicians might have been sharing with me, and if I didn’t, I felt empowered and not that this is easy by any stretch and it continues to be a challenge, but I knew that I needed to ask questions. I knew that I needed to read more about my illness, I knew I needed to vet my doctor as well, and I also figured out over time that as I was going to have this illness, hopefully in the sense that I hope I continue to live well with myelofibrosis and stay alive, that I was going to be seeing an MPN expert for a long time.

So, I think that influenced my point of view, I kind of take it as a job, so as to my personality, so I have a health notebook, I need to have one from the very beginning, I knew I couldn’t remember everything, I had to write it down. I knew I had to track what I was feeling so I could share it with my doctor, and I knew that from being a health educator, I think no one told me to do those things, and certainly, physicians don’t really know to tell you that, so I think in a lot of ways, I was approaching my illness in a very serious manner because I had experience in healthcare, and the last comment I’ll make is, I think from navigating the system, navigating health insurance, I knew a little bit from my experience as a caregiver already, and also from a health educator, I understood this is another area where I needed to empower myself or ask questions, or not take some of the information that may have been shared with me initially as on face value, that it was okay to ask more. As I said, I’ve had this illness for 13 years, I’ve also been caregiving for an adult child with illness, and every time I call the insurance company to ask a question about an explanation of benefits or why something isn’t covered, and learn a tiny bit more, and I add that to sort of my toolkit. 

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Transcript:

Dr. Joseph Mikhael:

I have long believed in patient advocacy, that we need to make systemic changes, we need to make changes within the healthcare system. But our patients are partners alongside of that, and there are many ways in which patients can be empowered to ensure that they have access to the best treatment possible, and this really begins with their own belief and understanding that they are part of that solution. This is…as one of my patients always used to tell me, I am taking ownership of this disease, I don’t want to own it, but I’m taking ownership of this disease. And that initial thought process, I think is important, secondly, to educate oneself about it, there is so much to learn, and there are a lot of difficult ways that it can be difficult to navigate resources. But there are great resources available because patients who are informed and understand their condition more can definitely facilitate the process to their best care. Thirdly, we’ve come to appreciate that having access to a specialist is very important, multiple myeloma may account for only 1 to 2 percent of all malignancies, and so very often, it may be difficult for a community oncologist to keep up with all of the details, and so…

Now, perhaps more than ever through the pandemic with access to telemedicine, patients can seek out an expert opinion. I prefer to call it an expert opinion over a second opinion because it doesn’t mean the first opinion is wrong, it just allows further education, further understanding to enhance one’s care. And then, of course, lastly, to be involved in community and other efforts that really push us towards better access for treatments for patients and better education are reducing the stage of this disease, so we can all provide the best care possible for our patients.