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When Should CAR-T Therapy Be Considered for Relapsed/Refractory DLBCL Patients?

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When can relapsed/refractory diffuse large B-cell lymphoma (DLBCL) patients benefit from CAR T-cell therapy? Expert Dr. Nirav Shah from the Medical College of Wisconsin explains study results that compared chemo versus CAR T-cell therapy in relapsed DLBCL patients and the importance of looking at the timing of relapse.

Dr. Nirav Shah is an Associate Professor at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Learn more about Dr. Shah.

[ACT]IVATION TIP:

“…for people thinking about what is the best treatment for CAR T is think about how the disease is behaving, and did you relapse early or did you relapse late?”

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

When do you say that CAR-T therapy should be used for relapsed/refractory patients? Is it after the first line of therapy has failed, or when do you tell your patients to consider that? 

Dr. Nirav N. Shah:

Yeah, so there was a large clinical trial that compared outcomes for those patients who had early relapse of diffuse large B-cell lymphoma. So within 12 months of finishing their R-CHOP chemotherapy, and they compared that to what was our historical standard, was to get more chemotherapy and then consider a stem cell transplant. And CAR T did better, and CAR T had better outcomes. And then recently, they just actually demonstrated that those patients that got CAR T early as a second-line therapy actually had better survival. For patients with early relapse in diffuse large B-cell lymphoma, the standard of care is to go right to CAR T-cell therapy as long as you’re a candidate, which means you have to be healthy enough, have the social support and the resources to be able to go through that therapy, which does require you to be within 45 minutes of a CAR-T center for about a month.

And again, we talked about, again, there’s issues with accessibility, which limits it sometimes, the availability to CAR T to all of our patients. Now, for those patients who relapse later, and we see that, patients who relapse a year-and-a-half, two years or even three or four years after their initial treatment, for those patients, the standard of care is to give a second-line chemotherapy, and then based on how well you respond to that, you would consider either doing a stem cell transplant if you had a very nice response to that second-line therapy, or if you were refractory to that second-line therapy, then getting CAR T as sort of a third-line therapy.

So again, there are lots of caveats here. The main distinction I think about is, when did you relapse? Did you relapse earlier or late? And based on that, choosing the treatment that’s most appropriate for that situation. So my activation tip for people thinking about what is the best treatment for CAR T is think about how the disease is behaving, and did you relapse early or did you relapse late? 


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What DLBCL Treatment Options Are There for Relapsed/Refractory Patients?

What DLBCL Treatment Options Are There for Relapsed/Refractory Patients? from Patient Empowerment Network on Vimeo.

What can relapsed/refractory diffuse large B-cell lymphoma (DLBCL) patients look to for treatment options? Expert Dr. Nirav Shah from the Medical College of Wisconsin shares research updates for relapsed/refractory DLBCL patients and his perspective about advances in DLBCL care.

Dr. Nirav Shah is an Associate Professor at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Learn more about Dr. Shah.

[ACT]IVATION TIP:

“…for those patients who have relapsed DLBCL, is learn your options and make the decision that is best that fits your personal needs, your ability to handle the treatment with your doctor.”

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Lisa Hatfield:

What treatment options are available for patients who have either relapsed with DLBCL or are refractory to certain treatment options, meaning that they are no longer responding to those treatment options? 

Dr. Nirav N. Shah:

Yeah, so the good news is, is for DLBCL, even in the relapsed setting, we have lots of options available, and that’s really exciting. The way that I look at a patient is how quickly did they relapse and then are they eligible for a higher intensity treatment or not. We know that patients who relapse early, within the first 12 months, that for that group of patients, the best therapy based on clinical trials is to get them to a CAR T-cell therapy type treatment, which has high efficacy and the potential to cure patients with diffuse large B-cell lymphoma. We now have patients who are more than five years out after CAR T with relapsed disease and an ongoing remission.

Now, for some patients who relapse later, we still consider things like stem cell transplantation, which was sort of the standard of care for 20 plus years until recent data showed that CAR T might be a better option in those patients who relapse early. Now, we have a group of patients that often aren’t candidates for high intensity treatment because they’re older because they have medical problems, or because they live too far away, and they can’t commit to the three to four weeks that it takes to be able to get a therapy like CAR T or stem cell transplant at a larger community or a larger academic hospital.

And the good news is that we even have options for them, so there’s new chemotherapy regimens, new antibody-based treatments that again, I like to think of those medications as more disease control rather than disease cure, but for some patients, disease control is often adequate. It allows him to be functional, go to work, with the milder therapy that sort of meets their, again, personal and individualized needs. And so my activation tip for those patients who have relapsed DLBCL, is learn your options and make the decision that is best that fits your personal needs, your ability to handle the treatment with your doctor. 


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How Is Relapsed/Refractory DLBCL Treated?

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What options are available if a diffuse large B-cell lymphoma (DLBCL) patient doesn’t respond to treatment or relapses? Dr. Justin Kline discusses potential next steps in treatment for DLBCL patients with relapsed or refractory disease. 

Dr. Justin Kline is the Director of the Lymphoma Program at the University of Chicago Medicine. Learn more about Dr. Kline, here.

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Transcript:

Katherine:      

Let’s talk about if someone doesn’t respond to initial treatment or they relapse. Let’s start by defining some terms for the audience. What does it mean to be refractory?

Dr. Kline:       

So, refractory is a term that’s used to describe a situation where a person has received treatment but that treatment hasn’t worked as well as we have expected. And the most – probably the most important scenario is after initial treatment.

Most people, for example, who receive R-CHOP, somewhere between 80 and 85 percent will have a completely negative PET scan after treatment. That’s remission. If the PET scan is not negative and you do a biopsy and it shows that there’s still lymphoma there, that’s what’s called primary refractory. In other words, the person’s lymphoma was refractory to initial or primary treatment. And in clinical trials that are testing agents, drugs or immunotherapies in folks who’ve had multiple treatments, usually refractory is used to define someone who has either not responded or has had a very, very short response to whatever the last treatment they had was.

Katherine:                  

How does relapse then differ from refractory?

Dr. Kline:       

So, right, so relapse suggests that the lymphoma at some point was in a remission, right?

And so for example, a person gets six treatments of R-CHOP, has a PET scan at the end, the PET scan is clean. We say you’re in remission. Eight months later, the person develops a newly enlarged lymph node, and a biopsy shows that the lymphoma has come back, right? That’s what we would call a relapse. There was a period of remission, whereas refractory usually means there was never a period of remission to begin with.

Katherine:                  

Got it. How typical is it for a patient to relapse?

Dr. Kline:       

Well, again, if you look at all comers, if you treated 100 people with DLBCL, most, probably 70 to 75 percent, would go into remission. About 10 or 15 percent would have primary refractory disease and another 10 or 15 percent would have a remission that would end at some point and they would have a relapse. So, it’s not terribly common.

The problem is that once the lymphoma has either demonstrated that it’s refractory to treatment or it’s come back, it’s relapsed, it’s a little bit more difficult to cure the lymphoma at that point.

Katherine:      

How are patients treated then if they’ve relapsed or refractory?

Dr. Kline:       

Well, so for somebody who’s had primary refractory lymphoma or has a lymphoma that’s relapsed after initial therapy, again, say for the sake of argument with R-CHOP, for many, many years, the next line of treatment if you will was to administer what we call salvage chemotherapy, and this is different chemotherapy from the original R-CHOP, that’s meant to put the lymphoma back into remission. In other worse, to salvage a remission. And for folks whose lymphomas were sensitive or responded, shrunk down to that salvage chemotherapy, we would consolidate that remission.

We would make it deeper using high dose chemotherapy and an autologous or a cell, stem cell transplant. And that’s been the standard of care for younger patients for decades.

That paradigm has been challenged, particularly in refractory patients or those who have very early relapses after R-CHOP, by two important clinical trials that have demonstrated superiority of a type of immunotherapy, a cellular immunotherapy called CAR T-cell therapy, which seems to be more effective even than stem cell transplantation in that population of folks.