More Than Medicine | Breaking Barriers in Bladder Cancer Care
Dr. Randy Vince shares how the loss of his grandmother to kidney cancer shaped his perspective and approach to patient care. Drawing from his lived experience, he discusses the critical importance of addressing systemic barriers and ensuring patients, especially those who delay care, feel supported, informed, and empowered. Dr. Randy Vince.
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Transcript:
Lisa Hatfield:
Dr. Vince, your grandmother’s experience with kidney cancer profoundly influenced your career path. And I’m sorry about that loss. I’m sorry to hear that.
Dr. Randy Vince:
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Lisa Hatfield:
How does that personal loss inform your approach to working with bladder cancer patients who may have delayed seeking care due to similar systemic barriers?
Dr. Randy Vince:
Yeah. So I’ll start by saying the experience of losing my grandmother, and if it’s okay, I just want to give a little bit of background to why she was so important to me is, you know, at a time when I was a teenager, you know, growing up, there were a lot of influences that at any given time, if I would have made a wrong decision, I would…I would have lost my life or spent the majority of my life in prison.
And this was, you know, both of my grandmothers, but specifically the one grandmother I lost to kidney cancer. Losing her again, kind of it started to shape my perspective in terms of how I would want to deliver health care as a physician. And it was because she was so influential, so influential in my life. And oftentimes, when I didn’t always do the right thing, she would be that person that would kind of bring me back and love on me and care for me. And so, it was very tragic losing her. And so, that experience shaped me in so many different ways that extend far beyond my career. However, when it comes to my approach as a physician, as a surgeon who treats cancer patients, I started to view my role in different lenses.
And so, I almost think of it as I have to have, I have different jobs when it comes down to helping patients navigate that cancer journey, right. So, we’re starting off, and I told you, I look at it as a spectrum in terms of, you know, screening, diagnosis, treatment and outcomes, or, you know, survivorship. And so, the first job is just really as an educator, because I want my patients. I know the receipt of a cancer diagnosis is devastating, but I want my patients to understand everything about their diagnosis when they leave my office. I want them to be able to explain things to their family members and their loved ones and feel confident and knowledgeable when they explain these things about their diagnosis to their family members and loved ones.
So, first as an educator, second, as a consoler, you know, during these appointments, which may run longer than, you know, the typical doctor’s time frame that we’re supposed to take with appointments. And that’s fine. I don’t care about the time, I care about the patients. I take time to empathize with my patients. I want them to know that they’re not in this fight alone and that I’m here with them and that I will do everything in my power to help them along this journey, and that, again, I’m in this fight with them.
And the other thing is, oftentimes when we think of cancer, the psychological impact it has is it takes us right to, oh, my gosh, how much longer do I have to live? And for the vast majority of cases, a cancer diagnosis is not a death sentence. So, I want them to know that I’m empathizing with them, But I also want them to know that just because you have a cancer diagnosis does not mean that you only have six months left to live, which is what we traditionally think of, because a lot of people who we knew have cancers of different types had stage IV cancer, and that was the reason why their livelihood was cut short.
And then thirdly, that I’m a healer. I walk through all of the steps of the treatment journey with my patients and just try to make sure that they understand every step of that process. I always coordinate that care with my colleagues. So everything is done with a team approach. And all of the members of the team are dedicated to their well-being. And if it’s a patient that’s primarily my patient, I always let them know, you got a team of people who are here ready to care for you, and I’m going to be the quarterback for you.
So, I’m going to be the one who makes sure that everyone runs the play correctly and that there are no obstacles that stand in your way in terms of defeating this cancer and that nothing falls through the cracks. So, I think by wearing these different hats, you start to build a strong relationship with patients, which is most important to me, and then guiding them with support, knowledge, and compassion. So, that’s how that experience of my lived experiences, especially the experience of living with my grandmother, has influenced me when it comes to caring for patients.
Lisa Hatfield:
Dr. Vince, thank you so much for sharing that story. It’s important for the entire cancer community and for patients like myself to hear that. It clearly gives you a unique perspective and connection to your patients. Hearing that story and hearing the words consoler and healer as part of your, as one of your roles or two of your roles as a physician taking care of that patient. We all need a Dr. Vince on our cancer care team. So patients, when you hear that, just know that your physician is part of your cancer care team and they want to be your quarterback. And if you sense that that’s not the case, find a Dr. Vince.
Dr. Randy Vince:
Yeah. Thank you.