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.What are the common chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL) treatment approaches? This animated video reviews treatment types, essential testing, and provides guidance for engaging in treatment planning.

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Transcript:  

Dr. Johnson: 

Hello again! I’m Dr. Johnson, here with another video in the CLL Collaborate series from the Patient Empowerment Network. In this video, we’re going to review the common types of CLL treatment. 

Joseph: 

And I’m Joseph, Dr. Johnson’s patient. Welcome back! 

When I was first diagnosed, Dr. Johnson told me that my CLL wasn’t yet ready to be treated and that I was in the watch-and-wait period. I was surprised by this information—it felt strange to be diagnosed with cancer and to not move forward with treatment immediately. 

Dr. Johnson, can you please explain this approach? 

Dr. Johnson: 

I would be happy to. Since CLL may grow slowly in some patients, instead of starting treatment right away, the patient’s healthcare team will monitor the disease with regular appointments and blood work.  

And as Joseph mentioned, this is called watch and wait.  

Joseph: 

Right. And some patients may never need treatment while others may start therapy later.  Dr. Johnson, what are some of the reasons that treatment would begin? 

Dr. Johnson: 

Anyone with a CLL diagnosis should be monitored closely, but an increase in a patient’s symptoms, anemia, or low platelet counts could indicate that it’s time to treat the CLL.  

Additionally, some patients may have a faster growing type of CLL that requires treatment upon diagnosis.  

Joseph: 

And when it was time for my treatment to begin, I remember we reviewed my options together, along with the goals of treatment and potential side effects.  

Dr. Johnson: 

Yes! It’s always important to set treatment goals with your doctor. Treatment goals vary by patient and help determine what is best for your unique CLL and your lifestyle.  

You should also have all essential testing prior to choosing an approach. Test results can help guide decisions and may show whether a particular treatment could be more effective for an individual patient. 

OK, let’s walk through the most common types of treatment: 

  • There is an approach commonly called F-C-R, which is two chemotherapy drugs that are combined with a targeted treatment called a monoclonal antibody.  
  • Additionally, there are several other drug therapy classes currently approved to treat CLL. They include: 
  • Immunotherapy, including monoclonal antibodies 
  • And targeted therapies 
  • If the CLL isn’t responding to chemotherapy or targeted therapy, your doctor may discuss options like stem cell transplant, CAR T-cell therapy, or a clinical trial. 

Joseph: 

When it was time to treat my CLL, Dr. Johnson helped me understand what was available for me.  So, how can you feel confident when considering your treatment options? 

  • First, consider consulting with a CLL specialist who is well-versed in ALL available treatment approaches, including clinical trials. 
  • Set treatment goals with your team and ask questions if you are confused about the proposed plan. 
  • Ask if you have had all essential testing and discuss how results may impact your treatment options. 
  • Finally, request educational resources to learn more about each approach on your own. Watching videos like this is a great start! And, you can visit powerfulpatients.org/CLL for more resources. 

Dr. Johnson: 

Great advice, Joseph! You should also bring a friend or loved one to your appointments, so you can absorb the details and take notes as a team.  

Joseph: 

Thanks for joining us! Don’t forget to download the guide that goes with this video—it can help you retain what we’ve covered. 

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What do chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL) patients need to know about their diagnosis? This animated video explains what CLL is, how it is diagnosed, and provides advice for being proactive in care decisions.

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Transcript:  

Dr. Johnson: 

Hello again! I’m Dr. Johnson, and I’m a doctor who specializes in chronic lymphocytic leukemia, or C-L-L. And this is Joseph, one of my patients. Welcome back to the CLL Collaborate Series! 

In the first video, Joseph and I talked about the important role patients play in their care and treatment decisions. 

Joseph: 

That’s right! And from the start, patients and their care partners should understand what the diagnosis actually MEANS.  

Dr. Johnson, can you please explain what CLL is? 

Dr. Johnson: 

I’d be happy to. CLL begins in the cells in the bone marrow—white blood cells called lymphocytes–and then goes into the blood. It’s the most common type of adult leukemia.1 

The condition is typically diagnosed through a blood test and confirmed by a bone marrow biopsy. Each patient is different, but some people may have symptoms that lead to testing for CLL. 

Joseph: 

And when I was diagnosed, I was having frequent colds and sinus infections. Dr. Johnson, what are other symptoms? 

Dr. Johnson: 

Like Joseph mentioned, a high risk of infection is associated with CLL. Other common symptoms may include:  

  • Fatigue 
  • Night sweats 
  • Enlarged lymph nodes or spleen 
  • Fever  
  • And unintentional weight loss 

Joseph: 

And it’s important to get an accurate diagnosis to understand how an individual patient’s CLL may behave. Dr. Johnson, what testing helps you learn more about the specifics of a patient’s disease? 

Dr. Johnson: 

This is important as no two CLL patients are the same. So, we should conduct essential testing at diagnosis to get more information about how a patient’s CLL may progress, and the results may even help guide treatment options.  

In addition to a complete blood count—or CBC, tests may include: 

  • Flow cytometry testing 
  • Cytogenetic testing  
  • Fluorescent in situ hybridization (FISH for short) 
  • Molecular testing  
  • And imaging tests, such as a CT scan 

Your doctor should review the results of these tests with you and make sure you understand how they impact your CLL care and treatment decisions.  

Joseph: 

Right! It’s a good idea to discuss the results with your doctor before you begin conversations about your treatment options.  

So, what other proactive steps can you take to understand your CLL diagnosis?  

  • Make sure you understand the specifics of your unique CLL, how it will impact your lifestyle, and if there are symptoms you should be looking out for. 
  • Ask whether you have had all key testing and discuss the results with your doctor. 
  • Find out if there are any indicators that your CLL is high-risk or fast-growing.  
  • And finally, when it’s time to make treatment decisions, ask which tests will need to be repeated. 

Dr. Johnson: 

Great advice! Don’t forget to download the resource guide that goes with this video—it provides an overview of the information we covered. 

Joseph: 

You can also visit powerfulpatients.org/CLL to view more videos with Dr. Johnson and me. Thanks for joining us!  

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Transcript: 

Dra. Johnson:  

¡Hola! Soy la Dra. Johnson, y soy médico especializado en cánceres de sangre. Y él es Joseph, quien vive con leucemia linfocítica crónica, o CLL por sus siglas en inglés. 

Y en esta serie de videos, Joseph y yo discutiremos pasos para ayudarte a aprender sobre tu diagnóstico, entender tus opciones de tratamiento y colaborar con tu equipo de atención médica en las decisiones sobre el cuidado de tu CLL. 

Joseph:  

Y aunque pueda sonar sencillo, colaborar con tu equipo no siempre es algo natural.  

Cuando me diagnosticaron con CLL, estaba confundido, no solo sobre la enfermedad en sí sino sobre MI rol en la toma de decisiones sobre mi cuidado. No me sentía cómodo compartiendo mi opinión o haciendo preguntas cuando necesitaba más detalles. 

La Dra. Johnson percibió mi vacilación y me explicó que educarme sobre mi CLL me permitiría sentirme más seguro al participar en las decisiones sobre el cuidado. 

Dra. Johnson:  

Así es, Joseph. El primer paso para sentirte cómodo hablando con tu médico es aprender sobre tu enfermedad. 

Puedes comenzar con sitios web de grupos de defensa que tienen recursos educativos, como la Red de Empoderamiento del Paciente. PEN cubre todo sobre CLL, desde lo básico para pacientes recién diagnosticados hasta información sobre terapias de vanguardia. 

Joseph:  

¡Eso es cierto! Siguiendo el consejo de la Dra. Johnson, descargué sus planificadores de visitas al consultorio para ayudarme a organizar mis pensamientos y tomar notas durante mis citas. 

Dra. Johnson:  

Y la Sociedad de Leucemia y Linfoma es otro lugar creíble para comenzar. La LLS proporciona información educativa y recursos de apoyo.   

Joseph:  

También puedes pedir recomendaciones a tu médico, o usar tu portal del paciente. El portal a menudo contiene enlaces y recursos educativos para pacientes. 

Dra. Johnson:  

Pero ten en cuenta que la información que encuentras en línea nunca es un sustituto del consejo médico. Ten cuidado con sitios que se basan en opiniones o se centran en la experiencia individual de un paciente. 

Siempre debes hablar con tu médico sobre lo que has aprendido para obtener respuestas a tus preguntas. 

Joseph:  

Muy cierto, Dra. Johnson. Y una vez que sentí que tenía un buen entendimiento de CLL, comencé a tomar medidas proactivas y a participar en mi cuidado. Aquí está mi consejo para otros: 

  • Primero, asegúrate de escribir tus preguntas y objetivos antes de tus citas. A menudo es difícil recordar cosas en el momento. 
  • Luego, trae a un ser querido para que participe en tus citas y tome notas. También es una buena idea discutir lo que aprendiste después de la visita. Esto te ayudará a retener la información que escuchaste. 
  • Además, intenta superar tus miedos de “molestar a tu médico”: sé honesto sobre cómo te sientes. Es especialmente importante mencionar cualquier síntoma o efecto secundario porque esto puede tener un impacto directo en tu cuidado. Recuerda, tu médico no puede resolver un problema a menos que le digas lo que está sucediendo. 
  • Y si estás tomando estos pasos y aún no sientes que te escuchan, deberías considerar obtener una segunda opinión o incluso cambiar de médico.  

Dra. Johnson: 

Ese es un gran consejo, Joseph: siempre deberías sentir que estás en el centro de tu cuidado. Esperamos que este video te inspire a colaborar en tu cuidado.  

Y, no olvides descargar la guía de recursos que acompaña a este video; proporciona un resumen de la información que cubrimos. 

Joseph: 

También puedes visitar powerfulpatients.org/CLL para ver más videos con la Dra. Johnson y conmigo. ¡Gracias por unirte a nosotros! 

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How can chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL) patients actively engage in their care? This animated video shares tips and advice for being proactive, including participating in decisions and educating oneself about CLL.

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Transcript: 

Dr. Johnson: 

Hi! I’m Dr. Johnson, and I’m physician who specializes in blood cancers. And this is Joseph, who is living with chronic lymphocytic leukemia—CLL for short.  

And in this series of videos, Joseph and I will discuss steps to help you learn about your diagnosis, understand your treatment options, and collaborate with your healthcare team on CLL care decisions. 

Joseph: 

And although it may sound simple, collaborating with your team isn’t always second nature. 

When I was diagnosed with CLL, I was confused—not only about the disease itself but about MY role in making decisions about my care. I didn’t feel comfortable sharing my opinion or asking questions when I needed more details.  

Dr. Johnson sensed my hesitancy and explained to me that educating myself about my CLL would allow me to feel more confident when participating in care decisions. 

Dr. Johnson: 

Right, Joseph. The first step to feeling comfortable talking with your doctor is to learn about your disease.   

You can start with advocacy group websites that have educational resources, such as the Patient Empowerment Network. PEN covers all things CLL—from the basics for newly diagnosed patients to information about cutting-edge therapies.  

Joseph: 

That’s right! At the advice of Dr. Johnson, I downloaded their office visit planners to help me organize my thoughts and to take notes during my appointments. 

Dr. Johnson: 

And The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society is another credible place to start. The LLS provides both educational information AND support resources.   

Joseph: 

You can also ask your doctor for recommendations—or use your patient portal. The portal often contains patient education links and resources.  

Dr. Johnson: 

But keep in mind that the information you find online is never a substitute for medical advice. Be wary of sites that are opinion-based or focus on one patient’s individual experience. 

You should always talk to your doctor about what you’ve learned to get your questions answered.  

Joseph: 

So true, Dr. Johnson. And once I felt I had a good understanding of CLL, I started to take proactive steps and to participate in my care. Here’s my advice to others: 

  • First, be sure to write down your questions and goals prior to your appointments. It’s often hard to remember things on the spot. 
  • Next, bring a loved one along to participate in your appointments and to take notes. It’s a good idea to discuss your takeaways after the visit, too. This will help you retain the information you heard. 
  • Also, try to get past your fears of “bothering your doctor”—be honest about how you are feeling. It’s especially important to mention any symptoms or side effects because this can have a direct impact on your care. Remember, your doctor can’t troubleshoot an issue unless you tell them what’s going on. 
  • And if you are taking these steps and still don’t feel like you are being heard—you should consider getting a second opinion or even changing doctors.  

Dr. Johnson: 

That’s great advice, Joseph—you should always feel like you are at the center of your care. We hope this video inspires you to collaborate in your care.  

And, don’t forget to download the resource guide that goes with this video—it provides an overview of the information we covered. 

Joseph: 

You can also visit powerfulpatients.org/CLL to view more videos with Dr. Johnson and me. Thanks for joining us!  

Start Here: Bridging the CLL Expert and CLL Patient Voice

Chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL) can sometimes feel overwhelming and complicated, but what can patients and care partners do to help improve their care? With this question in mind, the Patient Empowerment Network initiated the START HERE CLL program, which aims to close the gap in the expert and patient voice to build empowerment. 

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 The program series includes the following resources:

Lisa Hatfield and Dr. Danielle Brander

Patient-Expert Q&A Webinar Topics and Key Takeaways

In the Patient-Expert Q&A webinars, CLL experts Dr. Ryan Jacobs from Levine Cancer Institute, and Dr. Danielle Brander from Duke Cancer Institute shared their expert knowledge to help patients and care partners fortify their knowledge and confidence. The webinars provided some in-depth discussion along with key takeaways derived from questions submitted by patients. Some of the discussion covered:

Among some key points from the webinars, Lisa and Dr. Jacobs discussed the importance of genetic markers. Dr. Jacobs recommended CLL patients ask their doctor about their prognostic markers. “The one that is still potentially affecting outcomes, even with our novel treatments, are chromosome 17 aberrations, which stately are rare in the initial diagnostic setting, that or a TP53.”

The watch-and-wait phase of CLL, also called active surveillance, is a common term heard by CLL patients. However, there are actually two types of CLL. “While some CLL patients experience very gradual disease progression and are actively monitored during a watch-and-wait phase, other patients may experience a more expedited CLL progression and will need more frequent treatment.”

Treatment advancements for CLL have been moving forward over recent years. Dr. Brander shared her perspective about the advancements. “So over the last decade or even the last five years, for patients diagnosed with CLL, there’s been a very encouraging and marked change in the available treatments…not that many years ago we generally only had chemotherapy or chemotherapy combined with these antibody targeted treatments that we call immunotherapy sometimes. But in the last 5 to 10 years we’ve seen quite a remarkable change in treatments that target, meaning often they go after pathways or ways that the CLL cells have learned to grow or have learned to not die the way that normal cells should, die after certain time points.” 

Vaccines for those with CLL have gathered more visibility in recent years with COVID-19. Dr. Jacobs addressed some questions about vaccination and shared, “I in general am recommending, as does the CDC, to get boosted every six months for patients with any level of immune suppression and having CLL qualifies you as that. And then I recommend all of the general vaccines that come with age, like, for example, the Shingrix vaccine for shingles is now safe to give to CLL patients because it’s a conjugate vaccine, it’s not a live virus vaccine. So we’re lucky now with just standard vaccines in the U.S., there are no live virus vaccines that the CLL patient has to worry about anymore, so I definitely encourage shingles, pneumonia vaccines, boosting for COVID. We’ll see if we get an RSV vaccine, that sounds like it’s on the horizon. Flu, of course.”

Worries about CLL progression are felt by many patients, and there are some ways to stay alert for warning signs. Expert Dr. Jacobs explained signs of CLL progression including new or worsened drenching night sweats, significant changes in a patient’s ability to function, and major changes in lymph nodes over a short period. Dr. Jacobs also shared some research updates for treatments that have shown success against progression to Richter’s transformation. “…I’ve been having some recent success using CAR T in those patients, and also now have a, I was thankfully getting it sort of off-label approval to do that, but now I actually have a clinical trial investigating axicabtagene ciloleucel (Yescarta) in those patients.

Some CLL patients wonder about whether they can take a break from treatment. Dr. Brander addressed this question about BTK inhibitors. “…BTK inhibitors are given continuously, meaning, at least so far, the standard way we recommend of those treatments is that they’re taken every day, either once or twice a day, depending on which BTK inhibitor, and they’re taken every day. Unless patients run into progression, meaning the CLL learns to grow through its resistance or patients run into side effects that despite maybe team’s recommendation of changing the dose or holding the medications, that it’s just the medication is just not tolerate.”

Many CLL patients also wonder about the impact of exercise on their treatment response and their duration of treatment response. Dr. Brander explained about the impact of exercise. “I think certainly trials or studies really need to be continuing to look at this, because I think there likely are things that we can be more specific to patients about. There are studies looking at physical fitness and exercise regimens not necessarily specific to CLL, although there are studies being done in that space, but to other cancers showing that physical activity and exercise can help even for patients not on treatment maintain control of their cancer. So general daily activity and exercise are important in studies that look at how do you tailor that to an individual I think are important too.

Whether patient fatigue is originating from CLL or from symptoms of old age can sometimes be difficult to determine. Dr. Jacobs shared some insight about fatigue. “Fatigue, I’m not as confident when that’s the only issue that a patient’s having. I try to differentiate between fatigue from other causes and old age, and specifically to CLL. They try to put it as a metric and say, if you’re having to spend half the day or more just lying around and you’re not able to do your normal activities of daily living, like that’s a severe level of fatigue and treatment should be considered. I’m looking for somewhat of a precipitous decline, not necessarily just kind of the gradual fatigue that you might more relate to aging.

Some program participants provided valuable testimonials and insights on what they learned from the START HERE CLL Patient-Expert Q&A webinars:

Testimonials:

  • I love PEN webinars because I feel I have a direct connection with the best experts. I have many questions for my team after this program, thank you.”
  • “This program was stellar. I learned a lot that I have to address with my doctor.”
  • “I have a greater comfort level with promising treatment options.”
  • “I was most interested in learning about treatment options for relapsed patients and Dr. Jacobs provided great information. THANK YOU!”
  • “This was very helpful as I consider how to support my sister who has been diagnosed with CLL.”

Learnings:

  • “What BTK and BCL-2 inhibitors are…How Fish looks for DNA for Leukemia cells. And how exercise can help any cancer patient. Thanks for the program!”
  • “Even though I am Watch & Wait, I appreciated the information and explanation of the latest treatments.” 
  • “Fantastic program. Learned about many reasons docs decide not to treat.”
  • “I learned about some potential treatment options should I relapse.”

Many other questions were raised during the CLL Patient-Expert Q&A webinars. We hope you can use these valuable CLL resources to build your knowledge and confidence toward becoming a more empowered patient or care partner.

Empowering CLL Patients for Treatment and Survivorship

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How can chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL) experts help empower patients? Expert Dr. Danielle Brander explains ways that she helps her patients prepare for treatment and survivorship.

Dr. Danielle Brander is an Assistant Professor in the Division of Hematologic Malignancies & Cellular Therapy at Duke University Medical Center. Learn more about Dr. Danielle Brander.

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

“As a CLL expert, how do you help empower your patients so they can get the most out of their CLL treatment and survivorship? How do you work with them as a team to make sure, I guess they’re having the best outcome they can?”

Dr. Danielle Brander:

Absolutely. So it starts at the start. I guess so for conversations, meaning for those that don’t need treatment right away building the relationship, understanding how I can help patients and their caregivers help, for example, they like to learn how much they want to know, what resources can I connect them with. And then I think it’s important for them to have other team members that they can go to and talk to and hear it from, because sometimes the same information we can just share in different ways or approach differently. The nurse on our team or our pharmacist or I work with a wonderful group of nurse practitioners and physician assistants as well. And so from the beginning, I want patients to feel free to ask the questions that come to mind.

It’s amazing, of course, during the course of the visit when you’re going over your labs and that, that sometimes it’s easy to forget the questions you came in with. So, of course, anytime you can write them down before coming in, write them down and then maybe prioritize because all of us…I think it’s hard to remember everything. So prioritizing the questions we want to make sure we get to and go over as well as know that these same questions are going to mean different things to you the longer you’re living with your CLL. And so it’s okay to ask the same questions. Again, there’s never a question that any of us mind going over several times. And then just know how the team can help you. You know, are you coming? How much information do you want?

How much input do you want us to put? And what is your importance and priority? At the end of the day, I want all patients to know no one knows what it is, like living with it. No one knows what’s most important as much as you and your family or your caregiver team does. And I learn just as much from patients and the way they share their experiences. There’s a lot we can look at a group of patients with CLL and say how different each patient’s experiences, who needs treatment or not, who has side effects or not. But no one’s going to know as much as as you do living with it. And it’s our hope to help you wherever you are in your journey or whatever ways that we can help you.

Lisa Hatfield:

Well, and I appreciate your comment that we can ask the same questions over and over if we need to. I know my oncologist when I first met with him, I felt guilty taking in more than two questions, but right before he moved, I took in a long, I rolled up a piece of paper, a long scroll, and I said, I have some questions for you, but I knew they were all repeat questions. But it does give us a little bit of peace of mind just hearing it again from somebody, especially in those initial phases of treatment, just hearing it, even if you have to hear it again and again. So thank you for mentioning that. It makes us feel a little more confident in taking those concerns to our providers, even if they’re repeated concerns. 

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Brander, it’s these conversations that help patients truly empower themselves along their treatment journey. And on behalf of patients like myself and those watching, thank you very much for joining us.

Dr. Danielle Brander:

Thank you for having me.


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Can chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL) patients use supplements or lifestyle changes to impact treatment response? Expert Dr. Danielle Brander shares her perspective and information from other cancer studies.

Dr. Danielle Brander is an Assistant Professor in the Division of Hematologic Malignancies & Cellular Therapy at Duke University Medical Center. Learn more about Dr. Danielle Brander.

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Lisa Hatfield:

So we have another patient who is concerned about chances of relapse and is asking if there are any lifestyle changes through diet and supplements or anything that you can speak to that may enhance their response or their duration response to the treatment?

Dr. Danielle Brander:

Yeah. So a very very great question to bring about. And this is the one area, understandably where many of us feel frustrated because we can’t tell patients specifically that this trial has been done and says this specific diet is helpful or this specific lifestyle change is helpful to make the treatment work for longer. I think some of that is because some of the general advice we give meaning maintaining daily activity or a well-balanced diet sound non-specific or simple, but I think do help in patients staying in an overall general health wellness so that they can benefit from the treatment and potentially have less side effects from the therapy. 

But getting back to the question we just talked about, I think certainly trials or studies really need to be continuing to look at this, because I think there likely are things that we can be more specific to patients about. There are studies looking at physical fitness and exercise regimens not necessarily specific to CLL, although there are studies being done in that space, but to other cancers showing that physical activity and exercise can help even for patients not on treatment maintain control of their cancer. So general daily activity and exercise are important in studies that look at how do you tailor that to an individual I think are important too.


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Can CLL Patients Take a Break From BTK Inhibitors?

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Is it possible for chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL) patients on BTK inhibitors to take a treatment break? Expert Dr. Danielle Brander shares insight.

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

So this patient is telling us that he’s trying to plan life while living with cancer. It’s a challenge. It’s hard to know where to start. Can some patients go off of ibrutinib (Imbruvica) after five years and enter a watch-and-wait kind of program? And will they be monitored during that time too, if they ever do go off of the medication?

Dr. Danielle Brander: 

Yeah, more excellent, excellent questions. So of those main categories of treatment, the BTK inhibitors are given continuously, meaning, at least so far, the standard way we recommend of those treatments is that they’re taken every day, either once or twice a day, depending on which BTK inhibitor, and they’re taken every day. Unless patients run into progression, meaning the CLL learns to grow through its resistance or patients run into side effects that despite maybe team’s recommendation of changing the dose or holding the medications, that it’s just the medication is just not tolerated.

In those cases, there are cases where we do recommend stopping the treatment because of side effects. And the key there is that patients if depending how long they’ve been on treatment or how their CLL is responding, might not need to go on to the next treatment right away.

So to answer this patient’s question, if they were to run into a side effect that wasn’t manageable, there are patients where we say, stop treatment and let’s just watch things, see if you need treatment, if your CLL has no other reason to jump into the next therapy. And there have been encouraging things that we’re learning and that I think are hopeful to this patient’s question, which is maybe in the future there are patients where we proactively can tell them to stop after a certain time because of what we’ve learned for patients so far.

But at the current moment in time, we don’t tell patients to stop at a certain amount of time. But there are trials that are looking at that after a certain number of years. And there are also trials that have followed patients who have stopped therapy and some of those patients, as I mentioned, who are told to stop treatment due to other side effects or other reasons, may go a long time, a couple of years before they need to start therapy.


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BTK Inhibitor Treatment Side Effects | What CLL Patients Should Know

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What do chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL) patients need to know about BTK inhibitor treatment side effects? Expert Dr. Danielle Brander explains common side effects with BTK inhibitors.

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

We have a couple of questions about BTK inhibitors, and you already talked a little bit about the role of those and why they’re significant in treating CLL. But another patient’s asking about the, of course, a lot of patients wonder, what are the side effects? They hear chemo and like, “Oh, my gosh, the side effects are going to be off.” Can you talk about the side effects and even maybe some unusual side effects that you’ve heard of from patients when using the BTK inhibitors?

Dr. Danielle Brander:

Sure, absolutely. And so again, really important, these are things that as we maybe anticipate patients are going to start treatment, this is a long discussion of deciding between treatment, for example, as first treatment. There’s no trial saying one path is necessarily better than the other. So we try to individualize choosing between BTK inhibitors or that venetoclax-based therapy I mentioned. Some of that though comes about and what expected side effects are expected side effects for the individual. I try for patients to hear it from myself, other members of the team, the nurse, our pharmacist, for example.

And so patients shouldn’t feel overwhelmed to keep asking about what to expect or new side effects. There are some side effects we talk about regardless of the treatment. So I’ll just point out, anytime you’re starting treatment, you’ll hear the team talk about risk for infection, monitoring for fevers, reaching out to us about those kinds of side effects, lower blood counts that can happen regardless, not specific to BTK though it can happen there as well.

There’s some specifically though with BTK inhibitors, we ask patients to watch out for. Some BTK inhibitors can cause some cardiovascular side effects, meaning watching out for funny beating of the heart or what we call palpitations, skipped beats. There can be arrhythmias, some patients can have with time elevation in their blood pressure, for example. And then risk for bleeding, meaning BTK inhibitors affect how the platelets stick together similar to what aspirin does.

So the platelet levels may be normal but patients might have easier bruising, just generally manageable. But if there’s any kind of bleeding, certainly the team should be aware. It’s also the reason though, if you’re on a BTK inhibitor and you have a planned surgery or procedure, let your team know, because we may recommend or a lot of times recommend holding the medication before and after certain surgeries or procedures.

Other side effects can be muscle or joint aches. Some patients have some gastrointestinal side effects like looser stools or sensitivities to certain food causing looser stools, for example. And then there are some that are specific to the individual BTK inhibitor. This is the one point I’ll mention that first-generation BTK inhibitor ibrutinib, part of the reason for the second-generation zanubrutinib (Brukinsa) and acalabrutinib (Calquence) is not necessarily of them working better but to have less of these side effects that I just mentioned. 


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Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia Prognosis and Treatment Factors 

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What do chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL) patients need to know about treatment factors and prognosis? Expert Dr. Danielle Brander explains key tests involved in determining CLL treatment and prognosis. 

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

So, Dr. Brander, how do you explain CLL treatment options and prognosis to your newly diagnosed patients? And I think that the prognosis piece is really important, especially if they do start treatment. 

Dr. Danielle Brander:

What are the things we’re looking for in terms of needing treatment? Because some of those, especially the symptoms we’re noting a lymph node or spleen, for example, or symptoms of anemia, which is low red cells or bleeding from low platelets, it’s helpful for patients to understand what we’re looking for, but, of course, in the time between visits those are the things we want to help patients with if they notice.

And so we encourage them all the time to call our triage or send us, you know, most electronic medical records now, have ways to send your team a message. And we want to know about that from patients in between visits. In terms of prognosis, as I mentioned before, there are other CLL-specific labs usually on the blood, meaning a regular blood draw.

Most patients don’t need another lymph node biopsy or a bone marrow biopsy, though that happens in some cases. And two of those or some of those key markers I mentioned before, but they test in the leukemia, there’s one test called the FISH, F-I-S-H, it’s not specific to CLL, we use it in other cancers. But it’s to look for specific changes in the leukemia genomics, meaning the DNA, the genetic material of the leukemia, not genetics you’re born with, but the cancer itself.

And there are specific patterns and that can be helpful as I sit down with patients to say this isn’t 100 percent, but this is kind of what to expect and likelihood of needing treatment over the next couple of years. There’s another test called IGHV, another mutation test TP53 kind of beyond this to go over right now, but as you mentioned, I think it’s important to meet with your medical team and say, ‘How does this pertain to me specifically?”

In terms of prognosis, I think there’s two parts to that of understanding what to expect. There’s likelihood of needing treatment, there’s likelihood of time to treatment, and those kind of markers and staging system help in a good way. Right now, our historical expectations, meaning 5 or 10 years ago, we could often also sit with patients and say, “This is the prognosis in terms of survival.” Expected life expectancy on average, but in a good way, most of our systems nowadays with the newer treatments likely vastly underestimate patient survival, meaning those systems were designed when we only had chemotherapy treatments.

Now, we know patients even with the highest risk markers, the faster progressions are living, you know, years and years beyond what was expected with chemotherapy. So I just caution especially materials around from just a couple of years ago that likely they don’t pertain, but they can be helpful in knowing what to expect.


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Does CLL Research Show Potential for a Cure?

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Could chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL) research potentially bring a cure for patients? Dr. Danielle Brander shares her perspective about the future of CLL care, functional cure, and cure-like condition.

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

So as a cancer patient, one of the biggest questions I had when I was diagnosed, you hear the word “cancer” or in this case “CLL leukemia.” Two questions. One of them, is there a cure for CLL? And if not, are there any trials looking at a cure for CLL?

Dr. Danielle Brander:

Yes. Excellent. An understandable question. Traditionally, we say that CLL or others slower-growing, or sometimes you’ll hear the term indolent lymphomas, do tend to be slower-growing.  Some patients don’t need treatment. But the flip side of that is we generally think of them as not curable, that they’re a chronic condition and that treatment, the goal of treatment is to knock it down and relieve whatever symptoms or indications or reasons your starting treatment are.

But at some level, we historically think of CLL as either eventually coming back or sticking around, so to speak. However, I think most oncologists, most those in the field, feel that some of the treatments that are around or in combination, that we’re going to have some patients that have maybe what a term might be functional cure or individual, cure-like condition.

Meaning if our newer treatments for some patients can knock down the CLL so much that it either doesn’t come back or take so long to even show itself again, in a way that serves as what the purpose of cure, really is, which is to get it down to levels that it’s not causing problems or not coming back, for the lifetime of the patient.

Bone marrow transplant is the only therapy historically that has been cured, has offered a cure for some patients. The downside and the reason that most patients aren’t referred to for bone marrow transplant is the risk side of it. Meaning, unfortunately, a bone marrow or stem cell transplant has such a high risk of directly causing side effects.

That could be life-limiting or chronic side effects from the transplant itself versus the agents available now that we aren’t using or referring to bone marrow transplant nearly as much, but I think it’s really encouraging what we’re seeing in responses. So we talked already about those main categories of BTK inhibitors or venetoclax, I didn’t yet talk about, but there are many trials that have looked at those in combination, or CAR T, for example, or bispecific antibodies that are knocking down the CLL to such low levels. But the hope is that serves as a way of functional cure. But it’s going to take time to see if that’s the case. But we’re all very encouraged and really believe that that’s on the horizon.


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