How Can Gastric Cancer Patients Insist on Better Care?

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Self-advocacy is an essential part of accessing the best gastric cancer care, so how can patients insist on better care? Dr. Yelena Janjigian shares advice to help optimize healthcare visits.

Dr. Yelena Janjigian is Chief of Gastrointestinal Oncology Service at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center. 

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:

Yeah. Well, that leads us very smoothly into self-advocacy. And it’s really important that patients advocate for themselves. So, if a patient has a question or they’re unsure about a decision, why is it so important for them to speak up?  

Dr. Janjigian:

What I always tell my patients and I explain to them, that often the doctors know a lot of information. But there’s so much information that it’s almost impossible to – and we only have 15 to 20 minutes together. So, it’s almost impossible to communicate everything that we know to you. So, you need to drive a bit of what the focus is of priorities in each visit and get as much information as you can. But also in some ways, follow the doctor’s lead.

So, it’s a balance of information exchange. Use the portal as much as possible as well. The patient portal is often for follow-up questions. Write questions down. We have our nurse practitioners, our nurses, our fellows that continue to educate the patients because as things come up, and the field is so complicated that there  are just so many things that you can ask at one single appointment.  

So, it’s okay to forget something, but just write it down. In the end like anything else, you only have one sort of chance to do this in a way that you want it to be done. And as treatment progresses and you’re not feeling well, and maybe you don’t want to keep coming in for appointments and would rather go spend time in Aruba or Florida or somewhere sunny as opposed to – that’s okay. I think a lot of times it’s your life. You only have one. And I strongly believe in anything to try to get as much out of every interaction as possible using all the resources that are available to you. 

How Is Gastric Cancer Diagnosed and Staged?

How Is Gastric Cancer Diagnosed and Staged? from Patient Empowerment Network on Vimeo.

What tests are involved in gastric cancer diagnosis and staging? Dr. Yelena Janjigian explains key testing and considerations that are used to determine gastric cancer staging for optimal care.

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:

Could you tell us what tests are used to diagnose gastric cancer? 

Dr. Janjigian:

Most of our patients, when they come in to see me, by then the diagnosis of cancer has been made because I’m on oncologist.  

In clinical practice, patients often present with vague symptoms or no symptoms at all. And that’s an important point for our clinicians to understand. In patients who have chronic acid reflux or have, for example, other risk factors such as H. pylori infection, often they end up getting endoscopy at the time, for example, for their first colonoscopy. So, the age of colonoscopy, the first colonoscopy has is getting earlier and earlier with each update, because colon cancer is increasing in incidents in younger adults.

So, sometimes patients present and get first endoscopy, for example, which is an upper test with a camera when they’re getting their colonoscopies. In other patients, unfortunately, they present with more progressive symptoms. Often, it’s difficulty swallowing, regurgitation of food, and weight loss, which is obviously very dramatic.  

And so they end up getting an endoscopy because of that and referred by their doctors.  

Katherine:

How is gastric cancer staged? And what do the stages mean? 

Dr. Janjigian:

Yeah. So, the most important part of the staging of gastric cancer and what patients ask me, “What is my risk of cancerous recurrence? What is my stage?” Really what it comes down to is the depth of invasion. So, it’s not only the size of the tumor, but how deep is it going into the muscle of the stomach, because stomach and your esophagus are basically a muscular bag, right? And so how deep is the invasion of the tumor into the wall? And also how likely are the lymph nodes to being involved?

So, we assess it based on clinical symptoms such as swallowing difficulty and so forth. But in some patients, because the tumor is lower down in their stomach, they may not have very many symptoms, because there’s a lot more give in this muscular bag that our stomach is.  

And so we test the endoscopic ultrasound to look at the depth of an invasion and also other X-ray type imaging such as a PET scan, a P-E-T scan or a CAT scan, which gives us a sense of tumor location whether or not we think the lymph nodes may be involved. And ultimately the final way to assess, especially in patients who are undergoing surgery, is their microscopic involvement of the lymph nodes? Because that often drives the likelihood of cancer coming back after surgery.  

Katherine:

And how do the stages work for gastric cancer? 

Dr. Janjigian:

So, in gastric cancer it’s either early, intermediate, or late stage. And this goes from stage I to IV. So, stage IV  tumors is where most of the cancers are present. Over probably 50 percent of our patients present already at the time of diagnosis with more advanced stages. 

Biologically this cancer just tends to move quickly. So, even in between endoscopies in patients who get endoscopies frequently, often it goes from 0 to stage III or IV because of the lymph node involvement and also spread of microscopic cells, right? Tiny, tiny cells before we even see them, they spread through the bloodstream to other organs or lymph nodes outside of your abdomen. So, that’s considered to be stage IV. And then early, early stage disease is stage I. Those usually that we can just scoop them out using endoscopic procedures. They don’t even need to have full surgery. And then stage II and III is usually if there’s some involvement of the tumor through the muscle or into the muscle of the stomach and also some lymph node involvement. But that’s how we stage it. 

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Katherine Banwell:

Dr. Strickland, why is it beneficial for patients to seek a second opinion at a comprehensive cancer center?  

Dr. Matthew Strickland:

I’m very glad you asked this question, because there is often a disconnect that I’ve noticed. As providers, we really love second opinions or beyond. Third opinions, you name it. The disconnect that I’m talking about is often patients are a little bit shy or perhaps sheepish in telling me or asking should I get a second opinion. From the provider perspective, treating cancer is a tough business. New data is coming out all the time.  

You never know what center might have a clinical trial option that perhaps your center might not have. I would say that 99 percent of the time everyone is on the same team and looking to find the best treatment option for the patient. Again, I really can’t even think of a negative interaction I’ve had with fellow providers at different institutions. I really believe that this is a community that wants the best for the patient. So, I highly encourage at all times a second opinion or beyond.  

How Is Gastric Cancer Biomarker Testing Conducted?

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Katherine Banwell:

So, how is biomarker testing conducted? Is it via a blood test?  

Dr. Matthew Strickland:

This is also an excellent question. Biomarkers can often be tested in different ways. Most of the biomarkers that I’ve outlined start by being tested via cell surface expression of those proteins. Basically, that translates to once the biopsy of the tumor is taken out and is now in the pathology lab, a pathologist can apply different stains to identify these proteins and biomarkers.  

Then, they can assess, in other words, quantify the level of expression. This method is called immunohistochemistry. I would say it’s a fair statement to think this is a first pass method of detecting biomarkers.  

But it’s not the only one. Beyond that…there’s, for example, HER2 can sometimes reflex to assessing the copy number of the gene. So, we’re no longer talking at the protein level. Right now, we’re talking about using a method…the acronym is FISH, which stands for fluorescence in situ hybridization. This is a method to quantify the number of copies of the gene.  

If the cancer has indeed overexpressed HER2 to gain a growth advantage, then often we’ll see a very significantly high copy number. Then, to address your question regarding biomarkers detected in the blood, this is also a new area, relatively new. We know that there are fairly effective tools to test for circulating tumor DNA.   

Backing up for a moment, cancer cells can – let me rephrase. Cancer cells will to some degree shed their DNA into the bloodstream. We are able to detect that unique DNA to some degree. So, these tools, which are generally called circulating tumor DNA assays, there are different companies. The names of their products can be different. But they’re becoming increasingly effective at detecting tumor DNA in the blood.  

So, there are several approvals for these tools. But this can get a little bit tricky. Because the tools are so new, they’re not yet integrated into our standard management. So, perhaps, at larger cancer centers you might see providers utilizing these tools, but it might not be offered at every location.  

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Katherine Banwell:

Dr. Strickland, what biomarker testing is standard following a gastric cancer diagnosis?  

Dr. Matthew Strickland:

This is a very active area both for approved targets as well as from a research side of things. We’re trying to discover new biomarkers. I think it’s a critically important question. There are really three major biomarkers to help us make conventional treatment decisions. I’ll list them off first. Then, perhaps, I’ll break them down. The first is HER2. That’s H-E-R-2. Typically, folks have heard of this biomarker who are more in the cancer.  

But the truth is that the same molecular alteration happens at a relatively high frequency for gastric cancer. It’s a critically important biomarker because if we determine that the tumor is HER2-positive, what this tells us is that the cancer is thriving based on this protein in the signaling machinery downstream of this protein. The reason we like to know that is we can then target it as a vulnerability of that cancer.  

That certainly guides treatment options, specifically based on a HER2-positive result or negative. The next biomarker I want everyone to know about is called PD-L1. That stands for programmed death ligand 1. This is also a protein that’s expressed on the surface of cancer cells.  

What we’ve come to understand is that high expression of this protein will interact with immune cells in such a way that it tells immune cells to turn the dial down on their activity. From the cancer cell standpoint, this is a very clever mechanism. Because in normal circumstances, our immune system actually can detect cancer and eliminate it to some degree.  

However, when cancer cells choose, if you will, to overexpress this protein on their surface, it can act as a cloak. Suddenly, the immune system can no longer effectively detect and, of course, attack that cancer cell. This is critically important to know because if indeed a cancer cell is using this mechanism to survive, then we can also take advantage of this vulnerability. 

We can add various immunotherapy therapeutics to the treatment plan. The last biomarker of three that I think up front are very important to know about is called mismatch repair status. Mismatch repair proteins are important proteins that we have in all of our cells. Nature basically gave us these proteins to fix small mistakes in the DNA replication.  

That is to say when we’re growing and cells are dividing, DNA, which is the blueprint for our healthy cells, is copied. There’s a very low rate of mistakes, but there is a constant rate of mistakes. So, nature gave us what are called mismatch repair proteins that literally sit on the back of the enzymes that are doing the work.  

They can detect mistakes; they can snip out those mistakes. They can reinsert the right base pairs to fix the proper DNA code. Now, if these proteins are lost or their function is impaired, this can be advantageous to a cancer cell. The reason is mutations and mistakes will pile up, and they don’t get corrected. This can lead to certain growth advantages for the cancer.  

We know that gastric cancer at a relatively high frequency will utilize this mechanism to propagate itself. So, again, by knowing that the cancer is relying on this mechanism, we can directly take advantage of this as a vulnerability. We can improve the outcomes for the patients through their treatment. 

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:

What advice would you give people who have recently been diagnosed with gastric cancer?   

Dr. Matthew Strickland:

I really appreciate that question.  

Even though I spend all of my day job taking care of patients with these cancers, I’m never really there with them when they get the news. Often, they’re told by their primary care physician or the gastroenterologist that may have done the scope that led to the original diagnosis. I would say it’s the minority of time where I’m breaking the news. I think that there’s a lot of things to say to the patient.  

But one of the most important things I would want patients to know is that there is a whole army of people that are ready to help you if you get this scary news. It certainly doesn’t seem like that at first, and you don’t know who to call. But if you can call your closest cancer center and try to get into what we call a multidisciplinary meeting – what that means is you might see a medical oncologist, a surgeon, perhaps a radiation oncologist.  

The point here is that as soon as you pick up the phone and get that appointment, the machinery is going to start working for you, so we can help you.   

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Katherine Banwell:

I’d like to start with a basic definition. What is gastric cancer? Is it the same as stomach cancer?  

Dr. Matthew Strickland:

So, I think that’s a great question. I think for most of us from the patient perspective, just the word “cancer” is very scary. It can instantly stimulate a variety of emotions that all hit at once. So, I’d be happy to try to break that down. At the fundamental level, a cancer cell is a cell that originated as a healthy, normal cell in the body. Then, due to acquired genetic mutations or other aberrations have decided to stop playing by the rules and start growing out of control.   

So, if this happens in the stomach, which, of course, is an anatomic location, that could be considered a stomach cancer. But beyond that, there can be different subtypes. I would say the most common type is what we call adenocarcinoma.  

This is the aggressive kind. This is what I see most of the time and treat. But there are other types of tumors that could originate in the stomach such as a neuroendocrine tumor or perhaps even a lymphoma. Sometimes, we see tumors that are called gastrointestinal stromal tumors. So, I just want to make the point that there are a variety of different cancers that can originate in the stomach. But most of the time, folks are thinking of adenocarcinoma.  

Then, to also answer your question specifically, gastric cancer and stomach, they’re probably interchangeable terms. But, of course, it’s important to determine the subtype.