Why Should Endometrial Cancer Patients Engage in Their Care?

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What role do patients play in their endometrial cancer care and treatment decisions? Gynecological cancer expert Dr. Nita Karnik Lee explains the shared decision-making process and discusses the benefits of engaging in conversations with your healthcare team. 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee is a Gynecologic Oncologist at The University of Chicago Medicine. Learn more about Dr. Lee.

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:  

Would you define shared decision-making, Dr. Lee? Tell us why it’s so important for patients to engage in their care.  

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

Shared decision-making is sort of the idea model, right? It’s this idea that we want to, as physicians, know what values my patient has, and I want to be able to impart information that I think will be helpful for them to make a decision. Sometimes the decisions are do I want to do surgery or not? Sometimes the decision are do I want to do chemo or continue chemotherapy? Those are very different decisions, and shared decision-making is a way of saying we’re going to have some kind of communication back and forth where I’m like, hey, this is what I think is happening. These are the choices that you have.  

And you telling me, okay, these are the things that I’m worried about. These are the things that align with what I want to do. I think it’s really important, though, to not have physicians put it out as, oh, well, I just let the patient decide, right, because just like when my car breaks down or my lights don’t work at my house and I get an electrician to come and see, I have no idea what they’re talking about.  

I have no concept. I really rely on them to say, well, I don’t know what kind of wire for you to use in my house. I have no idea. So, we really want to be careful that shared decision-making doesn’t turn into a menu of choices that we, the physicians, are actually giving up their role in advising if that makes sense. A lot of shared decision-making is in that relationship of trust and saying I really get this. I get what you’re telling me.  

I have patients, for example, who are on chemotherapy for a recurring disease, either uterine or ovarian cancer, and a lot of times you’re making these decisions of, okay, quality of life, like, what are events that are coming up? Sometimes they don’t always align with what I think is best, but if somebody tells me, you know what, I’m going to do these three cycles, but my son’s wedding is coming up. And I really need a month off beforehand, that aligns for me because I think that’s important, but maybe it’s not the standard.  

And so, kind of really knowing your patient, from my perspective, and also, as patients, not being afraid to say these are my values, and this is what’s really important to me. People will hear it, and they’ll feel better equipped to be able to help you guide those decisions with the caveat that sometimes I’ll say, look, you know what, I’m pretty worried about you. Yes, let’s give you a month off before, but let’s scan right after the wedding and see what’s going on.  

And then we can decide what we’re going to do after that. Or holiday times are oftentimes where I really give people sometimes a break. If they’ve been on chronic chemotherapy, sometimes this is a time where I’d say I’m really worried. I don’t think we can give you a break. People will tell me I know you’re worried about me, but this is really important. And we work together on it. I think it’s knowing the medical background, and then making sure you know what your patient wants, from that perspective.  

Katherine Banwell:  

And having an open line of communication. 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

Yes. 

Katherine Banwell:  

That’s what you’re saying. 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

Exactly. I think you hit it on the nail. Having an open line of communication, and not feeling that you need to hold back from that. I think it’s much easier for our whole team. I work really closely with our nurses and PAs, and sometimes one of the nurses will be like, you know what, she really wants to talk to you about this. Sometimes it’ll be maybe not even talking to your doctor first, but talking to the person on your team you feel closest to, to say I’ve been really thinking about this. I know Dr. Lee wants to do this, but this doesn’t align with my kid’s graduation, or my grandkid’s something, and those things are really important to get that open.

Tools for Improving Access to Quality Endometrial Cancer Care

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What proactive steps can endometrial patients take to access the best care? Gynecological cancer expert Dr. Nita Karnik Lee walks through self-advocacy steps that may encourage improved patient outcomes. 

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:  

How is the medical community dealing with these disparities? How are they handling them? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

You know, I think a lot of it is, again, sort of educating. You have to think about you want patient education. You want provider education. Sometimes I have patients who come to me and say, you know what, I reported these symptoms to my doctor, and they said it was nothing, or they told me it was a UTI. So, we often think about, when we’re making an intervention, we want to make sure that providers who are seeing patients first-line are also hearing about this as in their differential diagnosis, and that patients have enough knowledge that they feel really comfortable advocating for themselves. Many of our patients who are cancer survivors will tell us. 

Or when they speak on their own in different ways or say listen to your body, make sure you’re advocating for yourself, and if somebody doesn’t listen, find another doctor. I hate to say it, but you just have to know that those are things that happen. I think structurally, as providers, we have to be really aware of our own biases that we bring to patients and their families and our own health system.  

How are we set up to help people more? I think a lot of it is quick access to care. And so, I think that’s where we try to make some differences in terms of both policy and policy within a health system, and then larger policy that’s kind of maybe more not just one hospital, but statewide or nationwide.  

Katherine Banwell:  

You mentioned advocating for oneself and how important that is. If a patient feels like they’re not receiving good care or they’re being treated unfairly, what steps should they take to access better overall care? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

Well, I mean, a little bit of it’s complicated, because so many of us are kind of limited by our insurance. We don’t always have the ability to do all the things. It can be scary, and it can be intimidating. I think one of the things that could be very helpful is to prepare yourself with a list of questions, to be like these are the questions. These are the things that I’m not feeling are being heard, and potentially even getting a second opinion. You can say this in a way that you can sort of feel like your doctor doesn’t need to feel bad. 

I even think second opinions, for me, I’m all for them. More information is better. That’s a way of positing it and saying, look, I know we’ve gone through these symptoms. These are my concerns. I don’t think they’re being addressed, and I would really like to get another opinion. Physicians are often like, yes, get another opinion. And so, those are ways that I think people can find the right fit for the physician that they want. 

What Are Common Endometrial Cancer Health Disparities?

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How can a patient’s individual circumstances impact the quality of their endometrial cancer care? Gynecological cancer expert Dr. Nita Karnik Lee reviews common health disparities and their impact on patient outcomes. 

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:  

Dr. Lee, disparities in healthcare can impact a patient’s experiences and their outcomes. What are common health disparities that gynecological cancer patients can face? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

Yeah, this is really – I always think about the cancer care continuum. This is the model that I think of. I think of what is risk reduction and prevention? What is early diagnosis and getting to the right person to take care of your cancer? Did you get the right treatment? And then did you get the right follow-up? 

Disparities can happen along those ways, and some of it can be related to access to care. Access, oftentimes, people just think it’s insurance, but it’s not. It is insurance. That’s a big part of it. We know that our states that don’t have as much insurance support for our patients who are poorer actually do worse. There’s worse survival. 

But I think it’s also does the person feel comfortable with the healthcare system? Are they connected with their doctor? Is it a language issue? Is it a bias issue that they’ve felt that they haven’t been comfortable in their health system before? All of those things can create these roadblocks along that whole cancer care continuum. Access really means more than just like it has to be acceptable. It has to be available. 

It has to be something that the person can feel comfortable with when they make a decision about treatment. That’s where we see things like people say, oh, that person declined surgery. I’m like, but did they really decline? Why did they decline? Did anyone get into what they were worried about, what their experience had been? So, we can’t just blame the patient and say, oh, they just didn’t want treatment. It’s really a complex area. The biggest disparity we see is in uterine cancer. 

So, Black women are much more likely to die of uterine cancer at any stage, especially older Black women. Some of this is access, but some of this is that there are actually differences in biology, and it’s kind of tricky because nobody thinks there is. Race is really a construct, right? It’s not really a biological difference, but there are differences in the types of more aggressive cancers that Black women get, and there are a lot of different reasons that people have started to look at that, both genetically, but also environmental influences, stress influences. 

So, the biggest disparity is probably in the uterine cancer, but unfortunately, we still see disparities by race in ovarian and cervical cancer. We also see disparities by income and insurance type. And so, I think those are kinds of things that are just the larger picture. 

Expert Perspective | Managing the Emotional Aspects of a Gynecologic Cancer Diagnosis

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What emotional support and resource are available for gynecologic cancer patients? Dr. Hinchcliff discusses leveraging personal networks and highlights key resources like the Society for Gynecologic Oncology and ASCO.

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:  

How do you counsel patients who might be having emotions around their gynecologic cancer? What advice and resources are available?  

Dr. Emily Hinchcliff:  

Yeah. So, I think that a cancer diagnosis is a life-changing experience. Even for patients who have early-stage cancers, hearing that word “cancer” on the phone, in the doctor’s office, and having to be the one to then tell family members and understand what that means for their life is truly a pivotal moment, and it does bring up all sorts of emotions and need for support. 

So, what I would say is, first and foremost, it can be really common that cancer patients sort of retreat into themselves and want to be more private. I think that I would encourage people to really use their support network that they have. Everyone’s different, and so, I definitely want them to do what feels right for them, but making sure that you leverage whatever support networks you have in your life is sort of the first foundation.  

Second, I think that there are just so many excellent resources out there for patients facing a cancer diagnosis. Certainly, in endometrial cancer, there are our big national groups of physicians. We put out a ton of information that is patient-focused, so, that is at a level that patients can understand.  

The two that I think of are the Society for Gynecologic Oncology is a big resource for patients with gynecologic cancers, and then, the overarching cancer society ASCO is another place that has a ton of cancer resources. I also think that patient support groups can be really helpful. There are many, many – so, my institution has one that is more specific to our institution as part of our institutional branch of the Woman to Woman program. 

There are also national, or city, or state cancer support groups, and I think that those can be really helpful to gain mentorship from someone who’s been through it and from someone who is a little bit further along in their journey than you might be as the patient that’s just getting a diagnosis, for example, and that can be really helpful so that you have that bird’s-eye view that sometimes, right after your own diagnosis, you just don’t have the perspective to understand. 

Expert Perspective | The Value of Empowering Endometrial Cancer Patients and Care Partners

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How can patients feel empowered after an endometrial cancer diagnosis? Dr. Hinchcliff emphasizes seeing a GYN oncologist, asking questions, and bringing a care partner to appointments for support and understanding key decisions.

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:  

As a provider, Dr. Hinchcliff, how do you empower care partners and patients who have been diagnosed with endometrial cancer? 

Dr. Emily Hinchcliff:  

So, I think that one of the most important things about a diagnosis of cancer is to develop the relationship with your physician. I think that it is truly a partnership, and it is an incredibly important thing as you think about the next steps in your treatment. For someone who’s diagnosed with endometrial cancer – or, honestly, cancer in general – making sure that you’re seeing a cancer specialist in obstetrics and gynecology – it can actually be sometimes a little bit difficult. 

You might have gotten your diagnosis with a general OB/GYN, but it’s very important to see a GYN oncologist – a cancer-specific doctor – because we’ve actually shown that patients who see GYN oncologists are more likely to get guideline-appropriate care – so, care within what we think of as the right standard – and then they tend to do better with their cancer. So, that’s kind of the first step, is finding that doctor and developing the relationship with them.  

The second thing that I would say is that you should ask questions. Bringing people to your appointments to have an extra set of ears is always helpful. Taking notes and trying to keep track yourself of what was talked about in your appointment, I always encourage my patients to do, but really, asking questions. So, making sure that you know what those molecular tests are that your doctor is sending, making sure you know, once they’re sent, what your results were and how that might change what your treatment will be. 

Now, you don’t need to go and get a degree in biology or go to medical school. I think that that’s a lot to ask someone going through a cancer journey, but it is really important that you understand where those key decision points might be made because that allows you to feel not only like your own advocate, but that you have some ownership of those decisions and you understand why the decisions are being made in the way that they’re being made. 

Questions to Ask About Endometrial Cancer Clinical Trials

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What questions should patients ask about endometrial cancer clinical trials? Dr. Hinchcliff outlines key inquiries regarding trial structure and eligibility and encourages patients to explore online resources and support groups for additional information.

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:  

What questions should endometrial cancer patients ask their doctor about a potential trial? 

Dr. Emily Hinchcliff:  

I think the two important things to ask are what is the structure, what am I actually going to get, or what could I get, depending on how many of those arms exist on the trial. 

Katherine Banwell:  

Would the doctor know that specific information, though? 

Dr. Emily Hinchcliff:  

It’s a good question, actually. So, generally speaking, most of us as physicians, in order to offer a trial to you, we have an overarching structure of that clinical trial. There may be some nuances about what the exact enrollment is in terms of the majority of the patients get this treatment, whereas a small minority get this treatment, or because of this patient’s specific mutation profile, they must be enrolled on this subset of the trial. 

So, there are some nuances there that, generally speaking, if I as the physician don’t know, I will contact what’s called my clinical trial coordinator or my research nurse, and they can come spell out some of those nuances, but if your doctor’s recommending a trial to you, they generally know what is the overarching goal, and what is the overarching treatment being tested. 

Katherine Banwell:  

Okay. How can patients learn more about clinical trials? 

Dr. Emily Hinchcliff:  

So, there are a lot of resources online. To some extent, it can be really overwhelming for patients to try and tease out am I a candidate, would I be eligible for a trial, or this trial, is this trial available at my institution. So, what I would say – first and foremost, ask your physician. I think that your physician is your advocate in this and your partner in your cancer care, and I think that certainly I and all of us as physicians feel really strongly that we can help you weigh those different options as you see them and as we learn about them.  

So, I think that that’s where I would start. I think there are a lot of online resources. The FDA and the government have a cancer trials website that you can go to and search for your specific cancer type. 

Many institutions – my own included – will have their own institutional trials website, where, on my institution, you can look up and see what trials do we have open on my institution, because obviously, the government will speak nationally, but your particular treating physician might not have the availability to give you that particular trial. And then, I also will say I think patient support groups are an incredible opportunity to understand what others have been going through and what treatments have been offered, and that can be a really helpful resource as well to get hooked into as a patient is trying to tease all this out. 

Where Do Clinical Trials Fit Into an Endometrial Cancer Plan?

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What role do clinical trials play in endometrial cancer treatment plans? Dr. Hinchcliff highlights that clinical trials can be crucial at every stage of the cancer journey, offering access to innovative therapies and alternatives to standard care. 

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:  

Dr. Hinchcliff, where do clinical trials fit into a treatment plan for endometrial cancer? 

Dr. Emily Hinchcliff:  

So, I think clinical trials are an incredibly valuable part of a patient’s cancer journey. Every institution and every provider is going to have potentially different clinical trials available to the patients in their practice, and so, it’s important to understand what clinical trials might be available to a patient as they both start their cancer journey, but certainly as their cancer progresses or comes back. 

I think that there is – it should be something that is on the back of your mind at all phases of a cancer journey. It may not be right for a patient if they are first diagnosed and have a clear standard-of-care option, but there are certainly clinical trials that add to or investigate what we consider to be the current standard of care to try and move that forward. So, even in that first diagnosis phase, I think it’s worth asking your doctor, “What’s available to me?” 

And then, certainly, when a cancer comes back, especially when a cancer has developed resistance to some of the more standard options that we would use, then I think clinical trials are an incredibly – it’s an incredible opportunity to have access to a toolbox that you would not have access to otherwise. And so, I think that – when I think about clinical trials, I think that they fit into all phases of a cancer journey, but that there are certain times in every individual patient’s journey that I would say this clinical trial might be right for you at this particular time. 

Katherine Banwell: 

What would you say to patients who are hesitant about trial participation? 

Dr. Emily Hinchcliff:  

So, I think that that is very common, and what I would say is information is power. I think that if there is a trial that you are eligible for, it’s really important to understand what the actual structure of that trial is and also understand what the phase of that trial is. So, let me explain those two things, because I think they’re a little bit different. 

When I think about a trial structure, I think about what is the trial testing, what is it looking at, and what are the potential arms of therapy. When we say “arms,” that just means what is a patient going to actually receive. And so, some trials, there’s only one option. Anyone who’s enrolled on the trial gets a certain thing. Other trials have some comparison arms. So, some patients that are enrolled get a certain treatment; some patients that are enrolled get a different treatment. 

And so, as you think about the structure, it’s important to know what might I get? Am I always going to get the treatment arm – for example, the drug that’s being investigated – is there a placebo arm – an arm that says I might get something that’s standard, like chemotherapy, but I’m going to get chemotherapy plus a placebo, which means an inactive agent, as compared to chemotherapy plus an inactive drug. 

So, it’s really important to understand the structure of a trial. The second thing that I think is important to understand is the phase. So, clinical trials are grouped into phases. Phase I, Phase II, Phase III are the most common that you’ll hear about, and those are a description of how far along is that particular drug or treatment in development. 

So, Phase I, that treatment is very early. It does not mean that there’s not promising data around it, but it means that that drug doesn’t have data, for example, in lots and lots of patients with your particular cancer type, right? Instead, usually, a Phase I trial is looking at a drug in humans or in a particular group of tumors – or patients with a particular group of tumors – for the first time or early on. 

Phase II trials are looking at that drug maybe a little bit later, after they’ve gotten some good data, or trying to expand a drug that might have been used in a different cancer type to a new cancer type, for example. And then, Phase III is the bigger studies where you’re looking to enroll more patients in a specific cancer type for a specific reason to say, “Okay, we’ve had good evidence that this drug has some amount of efficacy, so now we’re really trying to look to see how does it compare to what we have out there, and could this help us move forward?” 

Advances in Endometrial Cancer Treatment and Research

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What new developments in endometrial cancer treatment should patients know about? Dr. Hinchcliff highlights advancements in immunotherapy for newly diagnosed patients and ongoing clinical trials focusing on molecular pathways and drug combinations for more personalized care. 

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:  

Are there endometrial cancer treatment developments that patients should know about? 

Dr. Emily Hinchcliff:  

Yes. So, I think within literally the past year/two years, we’ve had some truly groundbreaking work that has changed the way all of us practice in GYN oncology, and that is specifically around this immunotherapy. So, it used to be that we would save immunotherapy for when someone’s cancer had returned. So, they would get their initial, for example, chemotherapy if they needed it, and then, when the cancer came back, that’s when we would start thinking about immunotherapy. 

There are now two big randomized controlled trials, which is sort of our best data, that tells us that adding immunotherapy in the first line, meaning when someone is first diagnosed, if their cancer has spread outside the uterus, that adding immunotherapy at that point can be really helpful for certain patients, and so, I would say that as an avenue of treatment – understanding is immunotherapy right for me, why or why not – is kind of my second takeaway for patients. 

Katherine Banwell:  

You mentioned trials. Are there ongoing trials that are showing promise? 

Dr. Emily Hinchcliff:  

Absolutely. I think it is an incredible time to be a GYN oncologist because the field is advancing so rapidly. 

I think that now, we are really focused on some of these molecular pathways to try and not only understand which patients should we be giving these therapies to, who are they most effective in, which patients can we actually be pulling back, who has a better prognosis, so we may not need to give them the toxicity level that comes with all of the standard chemotherapy options, and then, also, are there drug combinations that may work better for patients, and how do we choose which combination therapies we should use. And so, I think that there are a lot of really exciting clinical trials going on in endometrial cancer right now. 

Katherine Banwell:  

Dr. Hinchcliff, what areas of research are you focused on? 

Dr. Emily Hinchcliff:  

So, I have spent a lot of my research time working in immunotherapy. As you can tell, I’m pretty jazzed about it. I think it really has changed the game in terms of cancer care. And so, a lot of my work centers around the use of immunotherapy in gynecologic cancers. 

I also am very interested in looking at how we can better understand a cancer’s response to treatment. As we give treatment, often, endometrial cancer doesn’t have an easy blood test to say, “My cancer’s getting better,” so we kind of have to wait until we get a CT scan, which we usually do three months apart, and so, there are some newer blood tests out there that we’re trying to understand how to use and how to best leverage for our cancer patients, and that allows us to potentially switch treatments sooner if something isn’t working, or choose a better treatment up front, depending on which test we’re looking at. So, that’s really where my research centers. 

Katherine Banwell:  

Is there anything you’d like to add about the evolution of endometrial cancer care? What are you excited about? 

Dr. Emily Hinchcliff:  

I think I am really excited that our field has made this big switch to focusing on some of these molecular aspects. It has always been so hard to treat all endometrial cancer with one hammer-and-nail-type pairing, and now we’re able to be a little bit more nuanced with our tools, and that’s always a really exciting place to be. I also think that it’s really important to highlight some of the disparities that still exist in endometrial cancer, and honestly in cancer more generally, and I think that we as a field are starting to really highlight that and understand – or at least try to understand – how can we better provide care to every single patient who is diagnosed with an endometrial cancer. 

Current Endometrial Cancer Treatment Approaches

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What are the common treatment approaches for endometrial cancer? Dr. Hinchcliff explains that options typically include surgery, radiation, and chemotherapy, or a combination.

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:  

Dr. Hinchcliff, what are the common approaches for endometrial cancer? 

Dr. Emily Hinchcliff:  

So, endometrial cancer – when I think about any cancer treatment, there are sort of three big buckets of treatment. There’s surgical management, radiation, and then, chemotherapy or some form of systemic treatment, meaning treatment that goes into the vessels, that’s going to spread throughout your body, and endometrial cancer can be treated by, actually, all three of those, or combinations of the three of those, depending on that cancer stage and depending on that cancer subtype. 

And so, what I would say is for endometrial cancer that is confined to the uterus, generally speaking, surgery is your upfront first line of defense, and then, once you understand – after taking that uterus out – what the risk level is, your doctor may recommend chemotherapy after, they may recommend radiation after, and that sort of is dependent on what they see under the microscope. 

But for cancer that’s thought to be confined to the uterus, it’s surgery, and then maybe additional treatment afterwards. For endometrial cancer that has spread outside the uterus already to the lymph nodes, elsewhere in the abdomen, or more distant, then we start to think about that systemic therapy, and that can include chemotherapy, which works by killing rapidly dividing cells, as well as what I mentioned before, which is immunotherapy. 

Immunotherapy is medicine that kind of takes your own immune system and tries to rev up your immune system to better fight the cancer, because the immune system is predisposed to recognizing abnormal things, and cancer is inherently abnormal. But cancer is smart and develops ways to cloak itself, so the immunotherapy takes that cloak off and revs up the immune system to try and get an immune response. 

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Endometrial cancer research is evolving quickly, leading to targeted treatment approaches and helping patients access more personalized care.   

So, what is personalized medicine? Personalized medicine – also called precision medicine – is a type of care that is based on the genetic makeup and individual characteristics of a patient’s disease.  

This information is gathered using biomarker testing, which identifies key markers such as genes, proteins, or other molecules in a sample of tissue, blood, or other bodily fluid. The results of this testing can give a more detailed picture of the tumor’s type, aggressiveness, and may help predict how the cancer will behave. 

The test results can also identify which treatment approach may be most effective, through the presence of certain molecular markers.  For example, if biomarker testing results reveal that a tumor has either high microsatellite instability (MSI high) or mismatch repair defects (dMMR), an endometrial cancer patient may benefit from immunotherapy.  

Or, if the results show the HER-2 or mTOR mutation, this could indicate that the disease may respond well to a targeted therapy. And the presence of estrogen or progesterone receptors in a patient’s tumor may suggest hormonally targeted therapies may be beneficial. 

In addition to biomarker test results, other factors that physicians consider when recommending a treatment approach include:  

  • A patient’s age, overall health, and any pre-existing conditions. 
  • The type, stage, and grade of endometrial cancer.
  • And the patient’s preference. 

When considering treatment, patients should discuss the pros and cons of each option with their doctor. And they should review potential side effects, understand how the treatment is administered, and how the therapy may impact their lifestyle.  

So, what steps can YOU take to access personalized care? 

  • Find out if your doctor has experience treating endometrial cancer. Consulting a specialist or getting a second opinion can help confirm your diagnosis and treatment plan. 
  • Next, request all essential testing, including biomarker testing, and discuss how the results may impact prognosis and therapy options.  
  • You should also ensure that you understand ALL of the treatments available to you – including clinical trials.
  • And, make sure to have a friend or loved one present during discussions, so you can talk about the information later and feel confident in your decisions.
  • Finally, don’t hesitate to share your opinion and ask questions about available options. Remember, YOU should be at the center of your endometrial cancer care. 

To learn more about endometrial cancer and to access tools for self-advocacy, visit powerfulpatients.org/endometrial  

Endometrial Cancer Treatment Decisions | Factors That Impact Your Options

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Endometrial cancer expert Dr. Emily Ko explains health considerations and other key factors that may impact options when determining an optimal treatment approach for each patient. 

Dr. Emily Ko is a gynecologic oncologist and Associate Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology at the University of Pennsylvania. Learn more about Dr. Ko.
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Transcript:

Katherine:

Dr. Ko, what goes into determining a treatment approach for an individual patient? Is there key testing that helps guide a patient’s prognosis and treatment options? 

Dr. Ko:

Absolutely. So, I think the key pieces of information come from several sources. First, we do take the whole patient into account, like baseline health, baseline function, meaning every day, how active are you? Are there limitations to your daily activities? Looking at baseline health conditions, what we call comorbidities. Are there other health conditions, like diabetes, heart conditions, lung condition, kidney conditions, that could really impact a patient’s overall health and well-being? That is always part of it, number one. 

Then, we look specific to the cancer details. So, from all the pathology information, biopsies, followed by a surgical staging procedure, what exact stage, what exact substage, and we might even look at other unique features. Was there cells that got into the lymph vessels, the lymph nodes? Are there other just features from a pathology standpoint that are important, like the – I talked about microsatellite status, microsatellite instable versus microsatellite stable. 

Those are all information we can gather from the tumor tissue itself. That then kind of tailors our therapy. And then, like I was saying, now we’re going into this molecular era where we can actually take that tumor tissue and even do more expanded testing on it. 

So, I think it’s worthwhile to talk to your provider and say, “Hey, would it be worthwhile to send my tumor out for expanded testing, whether it’s done at your institution, at a specialized lab, or whether it’s sent out to a company that does expanded testing?” Because then, they might be able to test for 500 different genetic signatures, a much more broad panel, but that might open the door for opportunities to say, “Hey, you actually do have a very unique signature, and maybe it is worth tailoring your therapy even further.” 

So, I think these are very important questions to have with your provider, and these pieces of information can help guide the prognosis. I think we’re always asking what does this mean long-term, and I think when we have all these individual pieces of information, we can then give guidance on that.   

Katherine:

I wanted to get your point of view on why is it important for patients to engage in their care and their treatment decisions?  

Dr. Ko:

Right. I think that it is so important. Medical treatments, I think, do work the best for the patient when the patient is truly an active participant, and what I mean by that is I think we can really understand the patient if there’s a conversation, there’s a mutual discussion, and I think every patient has unique circumstances, has unique goals, has…whether it’s just the daily whatever responsibilities, or just either health or non-health concerns that they have, we want to be able to find a treatment that fits the patient, and we realize that one treatment doesn’t fit all. 

And so, the more, I think, that there is this mutual discussion, mutual understanding, then there’s a mutual decision treatment plan that is made, and there’s the more ability to modify that plan when – if you realize, oh, maybe we can tailor it, maybe we try one thing, and maybe we realize we got to change a little bit. 

And, I think that with a cancer condition, it is a journey. It is not just a one-time thing. It really is a journey, and I think that the more a patient can participate throughout that journey, I think the better the outcomes for the patient, and honestly, the better the treatment course will be for everyone participating.  

Katherine:

Why should a patient consider finding an endometrial cancer specialist? What are the benefits? 

Dr. Ko:

So, I think naturally, an endometrial cancer specialist is a provider who spends more time thinking about the disease, reading about it, looking at what’s the newest research studies that are coming out, what are the available clinical trials here, locally, regionally, or nationally, what are other support services available for the patient in the space. 

And, of course, probably the folks that do the most surgeries gear towards endometrial cancer patients, and so, I think just working in that space naturally then brings more resources and more opportunity for the patient to kind of really know what’s out there, what is the newest, and I think that really benefits the patient. 

Monitoring for an Endometrial Cancer Recurrence

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Monitoring for an Endometrial Cancer Recurrence from Patient Empowerment Network on Vimeo.

How are endometrial cancer patients monitored for a recurrence? Expert Dr. Emily Ko shares insight about how monitoring is tailored to a patient’s individual disease and discusses the frequency of observation.

Dr. Emily Ko is a gynecologic oncologist and Associate Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology at the University of Pennsylvania. Learn more about Dr. Ko.
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Transcript:

Katherine:

How are patients monitored for a recurrence, and are there approaches to help prevent a recurrence? 

Dr. Ko:

Sure, absolutely. Great question. It is important to continue monitoring patients, even after they’ve gone through treatment. So, I think of it as a multifaceted approach. Usually, it includes office visits, including a physical exam. It includes a thorough intake of all of their symptoms. 

It also includes – depending on the scenario – in some circumstances, regular imaging studies, such as a CT scan or MRI, and sometimes, we also do things like PET scans, and I think that does have to be tailored to the unique patient’s endometrial cancer, unique case, stage, histology, and we kind of tailor which tests we choose to do. The interval of monitoring can vary, so I would say generally speaking, it could be anywhere from three- to six-month visits, and with potentially added scans, as we talked about, and sometimes, we also do certain blood tests in certain cases where we may choose to follow a CA125 blood tumor marker. 

But, I would say that there are different, definitely variants to how we choose to monitor, and there are certain resources we tend to use, such as the NCCN guidelines that providers may reference, and sometimes may even share with the patients to explain why and how we choose to do the monitoring. 

What Are Treatment Options for Endometrial Cancer?

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What endometrial cancer treatment options are currently available? Endometrial cancer expert Dr. Emily Ko shares an overview of options, including chemotherapy, surgery, radiation, targeted therapies, combination therapies, hormonal therapies, and discusses considerations for patients who are trying to preserve their fertility.

Dr. Emily Ko is a gynecologic oncologist and Associate Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology at the University of Pennsylvania. Learn more about Dr. Ko.
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Transcript:

Katherine:

I’d like to talk about the treatments that are currently available. You mentioned chemotherapy, but what else is available for people? 

Dr. Ko:

Absolutely. So, treatment for endometrial cancer is usually some combination of surgery, and then it may be followed by possibly chemotherapy, as well as radiation, and sometimes, it may be a combination of all three treatments, or sometimes, it’s a combination of one or two of those, depending on the exact stage, depending on the exact cell type, and some of the other factors. 

Katherine:

Are hormonal therapies used as well, and targeted therapies? 

Dr. Ko:

Yes. 

Katherine:

I know they are in other cancers. 

Dr. Ko:

Yes. And so, I think the question is where do those come into play? So, I would say the usual algorithm most commonly would be that surgery is done first, as the most common first step, and then, based on the information obtained from surgery and the pathology report that comes from that, then there’s usually some type of a recommendation about should there be a second stepped treatment, and that frequently can be chemotherapy/radiation.  

Now, the areas where targeted therapy – for example, immunotherapy – where does that come in? So, that now has come into the – I would call it the second stage. We’re combining it with the classic chemotherapy drugs – Taxol-carboplatin, for example. That’s one example where it could come into play. Another example could come into play where a patient had gone through classic Taxol/paclitaxel and carboplatin, then had cancer come back, and so, that could be another instance where that pembrolizumab or pembro with lenvatinib (Lenvima) combination can be used in the setting of recurrence. 

Now, we could also say, hey, if your cancer type has those hormonal receptors present or is some type of what we call endometrioid histology, and we think that hormonal therapy may be more effective in that case, then that could also be used in a setting where the cancer has kind of grown again, the cancer has grown back, or actually, there are certain situations where patients, for example, may not undergo a hysterectomy. 

And, there are unique cases and those situations where patients are still trying to preserve their fertility, and therefore not wanting to undergo a hysterectomy, or they’re unable to undergo surgery safely. And so, in some unique situations, we may also use hormonal therapy as the mechanism to treat their cancer, and whether that is by way of a pill, whether that is by way of a progesterone intrauterine device, IUD, that is placed into the uterus, we also have situations where we tailor the therapy to the condition of the patient. 

Katherine:

When treating more advanced endometrial cancer disease in general, are the treatment options different than if you were treating somebody who had stage I or stage II, for instance? 

Dr. Ko:

Sure, great question. So, for some patients with, say, stage I, surgery alone is enough. 

For some other patients, subcategories of stage I, where we call them more high/intermediate-risk patients, they’re stage I, but there are a few features about their pathology that might make them slightly higher risk for recurrence – in those cases, we might consider a little bit of radiation after surgery, what we call adjuvant radiation or what we call radiation vaginal brachytherapy. Just three short treatments of a little bit of radiation to the top of the vagina has been shown to possibly decrease chance of recurrence in that area with very minimal side effects. 

So, that would be more commonly in line with stage I. There are some subtypes that can still be what we call high-risk, even in stage I/stage II uterine serous carcinoma, uterine carcinosarcoma. In those cases, we might also recommend chemotherapy along with some vaginal brachytherapy following their hysterectomy, so that’s the early stage. 

And then, with the advanced stage, yes. So, frequently, it’d be surgery first to secure the diagnosis, followed by some type of – it might be primarily chemotherapy, or it could be combination chemotherapy with radiation. And over time, I would say our paradigm for what we use for chemotherapy and radiation has changed a little bit.  

If you go back a couple decades, I think radiation was used a lot – whole pelvic radiation, even just without any chemotherapy. And then, we then had more data from research clinical trials, GOG-258 or PORTEC-3, that then had given us evidence that perhaps doing chemotherapy with some combination of radiation is going to be beneficial, or even moving towards primarily radiation could be a very good option in terms of long-term benefit/long-term survival. 

And, of course, that brings us to the present day, those two trials that I mentioned from ASCO, the GY018 and the RUBY, now bringing in the immunotherapy component to the chemotherapy, so there has definitely been an evolution to managing advanced stage. 

What Should Endometrial Cancer Patients Know About Clinical Trials?

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Should endometrial cancer patients consider a clinical trial as a treatment option? Expert Dr. Emily Ko reviews the potential benefits of participating in a clinical trial.

Dr. Emily Ko is a gynecologic oncologist and Associate Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology at the University of Pennsylvania. Learn more about Dr. Ko.
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Transcript:

Katherine:

Well, you just mentioned clinical trials, and I think it’s a good topic to cover a little bit. Why is it important for patients to actually consider enrolling? What are the benefits for them? 

Dr. Ko:

Sure. So, while we certainly have a good armamentarium of standard-of-care therapies already, and I should mention that does include our classic chemotherapy drugs like paclitaxel (Abraxane), carboplatin (Paraplatin), and even doxorubicin (Adriamycin), if you will, or doxorubicin Hcl (Doxil), there are the immunotherapy drugs now that have become standard of care as well, like pembrolizumab (Keytruda), but sometimes, despite using those best available drugs, the cancer unfortunately either continues to grow or you had a good response, but somehow it shows up again – the cancer shows up again – and so, then, we’re looking for additional opportunities, additional therapies. 

And so, some of the best opportunities are actually to consider these clinical trials. The way that clinical trials are designed is that they always are going  to provide you at least a backbone of a standard available therapy, so you’re never going to get less than what would be considered standard of care. 

But, what they’re doing is they’re usually partnering another drug – a more novel therapy – or they’re basically testing a more novel therapy that could be more targeted, that could potentially have better efficacy than what’s already available standardly. And so, the value of that is that you could have an opportunity to have a therapy that could work even better. 

When you’ve tried something already, unfortunately, the cancer has grown, there is still opportunity, and while you’re on a clinical trial, I think one of the huge benefits is it’s very regulated. You are monitored so closely because at the base of all of this is safety. There is never going to be a drug or therapy that’s going to be administered to a patient without ensuring that there’s absolute safety for that patient, and so, that’s a way that you really have opportunity to get more treatment that could really help your cancer condition and do it in a very, very safe, formal fashion. 

Katherine:

And ultimately help others as well, in the future. 

Dr. Ko:

Exactly, absolutely, because as you’re participating in this process – and, of course, it’s a voluntary process to participate on a clinical trial, so we so appreciate all the patients who, in the past, have participated and are willing to participate in the future, but allows us also to really gather a lot of information to really inform cancer treatment for all the patients coming down the road, and those could be anyone. They could be our neighbors, our friends, our own family members, and that could really be so helpful to everyone that’s going through this type of thing. 

Katherine:

Absolutely, yeah. I’d like to back up a bit and talk about what endometrial cancer is. It’s often referred to as uterine cancer. So, are they the same thing? Are these terms interchangeable? 

Dr. Ko:

Sure, it’s a great question. So, endometrial cancer refers to cancer that starts in what I call the lining of the uterine cavity. So, inside the uterus, there’s a uterine cavity, and there’s a tissue that coats that cavity, and that’s called the endometrium. So, endometrial cancer is basically when cancer cells start growing from that tissue. And, of course, since that exists in the uterus, of course, it’s considered uterine cancer, and we’re just being a little bit more specific when we say endometrial cancer. But, of course, endometrial cancer is the most common form of uterine cancer by far, so in some ways, it’s almost – it’s synonymous.