What Questions Should You Ask About Endometrial Cancer Detection?

Gynecological cancer expert Dr. Nita Karnik Lee explains the importance of self-advocacy in endometrial cancer detection, including speaking up when you have concerns and seeking care early. 

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell: 

What questions should patients be asking their doctor about detection? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

For uterine cancer or endometrial cancer, detection is really based on symptoms. If there are any of those symptoms that are happening, they really should be asking, hey, I need to see a gynecologist. I need to do a biopsy. We do, unfortunately, see many patients who are sort of told, oh, it must be fibroids. But that shouldn’t happen in post-menopausal patients. I’ve heard everything. I’ve heard patients sort of self-reflect, and say, you know what, I was stressed that day, or I moved the couch that day. I’ve heard all the different things we think about, because none of us wants to feel like there could be something wrong. We often justify. It was probably nothing.  

But the patients who do the best are the patients who have a spotting episode, they have a bleeding episode, they seek care right away. And then 80 percent of uterine cancers need only surgery, so that’s a good statistic compared to some of the other GYN cancers. I would say advocating for your symptoms, not being afraid of a symptom being worked up, because I think there’s a lot of fear with, if you report something, maybe it will be something.  

And getting over that sensation of it may not be. It may be something completely different that’s benign. But I think the earlier that we can see a diagnosis and get people to treatment and/or hysterectomy, that tends to do the best in terms of survival and just getting over this episode. 

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:  

What is the role of genetic and biomarker testing as screening tools?  

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

Those two things are different in certain ways, and it’s actually really important to think about that as well because for genetic testing if you do have a strong family history, there may be times where you are going to see a cancer genetics person. They may say, hey, your mom had uterine cancer. Maybe they are diagnosed with a certain syndrome. Lynch syndrome is the most common one, which is caused by a mutation in some of the repair proteins that normally repair DNA. That’s something that can get diagnosed and predispose people to many cancers, the most common of which is colon or uterine cancer.  

So, in those patients, some of those patients will actually undergo endometrial biopsies starting at a young age, even if they don’t have any irregular bleeding. Biomarkers are something also really important for somebody who is diagnosed already with endometrial cancer. So, if you get diagnosed with endometrial cancer, we actually use the biomarkers, which are an example of proteins the tumor has on its cell surface that can be turned on and off. And that profile of which biomarkers are on and off gives us an idea, and now can really help guide a little bit of treatment for some patients. 

Katherine Banwell:  

Okay. Should women with a family history of endometrial cancer take extra precautions? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

I think they need to be really aware about the symptoms, and they need to be really thinking about whether or not there’s any role for genetic testing. Some patients, they have a family history. They’ve done genetic testing. It’s negative. There’s not anything else that we would do. But in those patients, if there’s any vaginal bleeding, spotting, anything irregular, that might really jump on the symptom diagnosis, or the symptoms leading to diagnosis, or sometimes people have other issues. 

They have fibroids. They have other things going on, and maybe they need a surgery, and maybe having that family history in your background sways you a little bit more. Hey, maybe I will consider surgery. It’s probably not the only reason to do a hysterectomy, but it can contribute to the decision-making if that makes sense. 

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Katherine Banwell:  

Dr. Lee, what are the screening tests for endometrial cancer? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

That’s also a situation that we don’t actually have screening tests for uterine cancer. Again, PAP smears are usually normal in patients who have endometrial cancer because the PAP smear collects just the cells from the outside. Occasionally, sometimes cells that are in the endometrial lining can fall down into the cervix and get found on a PAP smear. 

But that’s actually, usually, the exception and not the norm. So, most women I operate on who have endometrial cancer will have had normal PAP smears. But it’s really important to know what symptoms would really trigger the first diagnosis. So, any type of vaginal bleeding after menopause, vaginal spotting, brownish discharge, or anything that seems unusual, really warrants a biopsy. That is not exactly a screening test because screening tests are usually for patients who don’t have any symptoms, but it is really a very important diagnostic test for someone who has any of those symptoms.  

Katherine Banwell:  

Have there been advances in screening or screening technology that patients should know about? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

Yeah, people are talking about that. We know that there are certain risk factors for uterine cancer, so there has always been a discussion about, what about maybe we don’t screen everyone. Maybe we don’t biopsy everyone, but maybe we should be biopsying some people. So, the issue of patients who have obesity is one of the risk factors, not all of them, because some patients who have obesity don’t have this, and vice versa. 

Some patients are very thin and get endometrial cancer, because there are so many different types of endometrial cancer. But I think people have talked about the idea of people who have had a real cycle of irregular periods before menopause, and then may have some risk factors such as obesity, or metabolic syndrome, or diabetes, maybe they should get screened, but that has not been advocated at a public health level. Now, patients who do have a genetic mutation should get screening tests by the endometrial biopsy.  

Katherine Banwell:  

So, you mentioned some things to look for. How is endometrial cancer diagnosed? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

It’s diagnosed when somebody usually comes in. Most of the people will be diagnosed because they have a symptom such as vaginal bleeding or vaginal discharge. Then they will have either an office-based biopsy, which is called an endometrial pipelle or endometrial biopsy. 

Or they can have something that people have heard of before, called a D&C. That stands for dilation and curettage. That means opening up or dilating the cervix just a little bit to allow an instrument to come in and do a small scraping of the lining of the uterus. So, one of those two ways is going to be the way this is diagnosed. 

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell: 

What symptoms should people look for? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

So, this is a very important point. I think the symptoms that people should look for are symptoms that are in the bowel and bladder function area that are different or new to them. This can be changes in urinary frequency, or urgency, or sense of pressure, or not having as much bladder capacity, like having to run to the bathroom more frequently.   

Sometimes it can be changes in bowel movements, such as constipation, or not feeling like they’re emptying, or it can be changes in appetite, where people feel full really quickly, where they eat a small amount, and all of the sudden, they just feel like they can’t eat anymore. Obviously, worsening symptoms such as nausea or even throwing up, that’s a little more extreme, but that can happen.  

Again, if you’ve had these symptoms for years every time you eat a certain food or something like that, those are probably not new, and that probably is not going to be something cancerous. But if there’s something that’s new or different, the symptom seems to stick out to you that this isn’t your usual routine, and it seems persistent over two or three weeks, and it’s happening almost daily, or at least more frequently than you would expect, then I think that warrants telling your doctor about it, and really advocating, and knowing that not everyone is going to have ovarian cancer, which is good, but knowing that they should do the workup for this just to rule it out.  

Katherine Banwell:  

How reliable are PAP smears in detecting ovarian cancer? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

PAP smears do not detect ovarian cancer at all. So, people with ovarian cancer have normal PAP smears. It would be very unusual to have an abnormal PAP smear due to ovarian cancer. A lot of the misconception is that patients have said, “Well, I had my annual exam last year. I got my PAP smear every three to five years. That seems negative. So, why did I get this cancer?” But the two are completely unrelated. 

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:  

What is the role of genetic and biomarker testing as screening tools? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

Genetic testing is very important. When we get, for example, and I’ll kind of back up a little bit to say if somebody gets diagnosed with ovarian cancer, that is actually everyone who has a diagnosis of ovarian, fallopian tube, or peritoneal, because those are all sort of the same cancer, should get genetic testing to see if there’s a hereditary predisposition in their genetics that are passed on.  

That’s called germline testing. And those patients, and 20 percent of them, may actually have a hereditary condition that could be passed on. Then that’s where you can see how important it is. If I have somebody, and her children now know that the person has the BRCA gene, for example, then it’s really important for her children, men and women, to get screened, because then they may be able to do preventive measures, such as preventive surgery, preventive medications, or more frequent screening, to be able to prevent cancer from happening. 

Katherine Banwell:  

Okay. What genetic mutations are associated with ovarian cancer? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

The ones that are most common that you hear about are something called BRCA, or B-R-C-A, 1 and 2. Those make up the majority of those mutations. There are some other less common ones such as Lynch syndrome, which is more associated with colon and endometrial cancer but can have about 10 percent to 12 percent of patients related to ovarian cancer as well.   

Nowadays, when we do genetic testing, we do a panel, so there are like 35 genes that are tested. There are a whole lot of different genes that can have an association with ovarian cancer, but the BRCA genes are the ones that most people hear about.   

Katherine Banwell:  

Should women with a family history of ovarian cancer take extra precautions? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

That’s a very good question. So, if you have a family history, it’s probably important to talk to your doctor and to maybe even see somebody in cancer genetics who can draw out a family tree for you to see how high is this risk? If people have an ovarian cancer patient, one – or a breast cancer patient – some of it also matters what was the age that that patient got diagnosed. Some genetic mutation syndromes, actually the patient gets diagnosed much younger than average.  

The average age for ovarian cancer is about 60. Some patients will get it. For some genetic mutations, it’s still about that range. So, I think it’s important because even if you don’t have a genetic mutation, having a family member with ovarian cancer slightly increases your risk. 

Knowing those symptoms, knowing that your history will help your doctor dictate how quickly are they thinking about something else is really important, ultrasound, but we know that ultrasound is not perfect. 

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:  

Dr. Lee, what are the screening tests and procedures to detect ovarian cancer? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

So, one of the important things to realize is that we do not actually have a screening test for ovarian cancer. That’s really important for the general public who maybe is at average risk. Patients who have a strong family history or a genetic, hereditary condition, sometimes we do use ultrasound and CA125, but that’s not considered a screening test for average-risk patients. We’re very limited in that sense for ovarian cancer. There’s a lot of research that’s being done about this.  

Katherine Banwell:  

Have there been advances in screening or screening technology that patients should know about? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

I think the issue with screening and ovarian cancer is because we have not had any, and there have been really large studies that have been done both in the U.S. and in Europe, trying to see does ultrasound work every six months. Does CA125 and ultrasound work?

There’s some combination of blood tests that have started to become a little bit more researched in terms of going further along, but there’s really nothing that’s the perfect answer. One of the really important things that we talk about is knowing family history to see if there’s something that can be done to help patients who have a family history.  

And then also being really aware of subtle symptoms of ovarian cancer that can trigger you going to your doctor and then really pushing and advocating for yourself and your family member to get a workup done, which can often include an exam, an ultrasound, and maybe even something like a CAT scan or CT scan if any of the symptoms are a little more worrisome.  

Katherine Banwell:  

What questions should patients ask their doctor about detection? 

Dr. Nita Karnik Lee:  

I think that when we’re thinking about detection, or if somebody has these symptoms coming up, definitely asking, like, hey, you know what? I’m seeing you as an internist, but I haven’t had a pelvic exam. So, making sure you’re seeing a gynecologist or an internist or family medicine doctor who can do a vaginal and a rectal exam is one important step. Perhaps getting an ultrasound or perhaps getting a CAT scan if the symptoms are more significant.  

Unfortunately, we still see a lot of women who have these sort of vague symptoms, maybe they’re GI-related, and they get a workup for like six months on an EGD, or a colonoscopy, or they tried Pepcid. And all of those things are good, and they’re not unreasonable to do, but I think something else that can be done in addition would be a pelvic ultrasound, as an example.

I would say that if somebody doesn’t have any of those symptoms, but they have a family history, that’s why we’re in a little bit more of a bind as to know what the right thing to do is. We know that for patients who have a known BRCA mutation and are not ready for risk reduction surgery, we often will use ultrasound, but we know that ultrasound is not perfect. 

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Transcript:

Katherine Banwell:  

Dr. Gray, as a provider, how do you empower patients who have been diagnosed with ovarian cancer?  

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That’s such an important question. I think that it’s incredibly important. My role is to help alleviate fear. I think when patients have a new diagnosis of cancer the rug’s been pulled out from under them. The patient describes it like being in a car crash.   

You’re numb. It’s hard to even know where to go next. There’s so much fear, because you don’t know what’s next and the loss of control. So, I really spent a lot of time trying to just address that and acknowledge but also help move people forward, because I think it’s always helpful to be able to have a plan or have a sense of what’s going to happen next or have some control around that.  

Of course, I also need to instill a lot of hope for patients. You never know what any one patient’s journey is going to be. The way information is, as I said, you can get all of these information and numbers, and it can be completely scary. Any one patient, their journey is different from the next one from the next one, and it’s very important to be hopeful and thoughtful about what that might look like or thinking about what that might look like. 

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Eskander, as new treatments and strategies emerge, how can patients and their families stay activated and ensure they’re benefiting from the latest advancements? And what should they be asking their care team to make sure they’re up to speed with the latest in gynecologic cancer care?

Dr. Ramez Eskander:

This is so important to me for patients to feel like they’re empowered and educated. I believe that patients are their greatest advocates. This is where family and friends are also an important part of the care team. From my perspective, it’s very beneficial to have someone in the room with the patient as they’re having conversations about treatments and treatment strategies to take appropriate notes, to be informed, and to not feel bad about asking questions, to not feel bad about asking the relevance of a second opinion.

Any provider should never take offense to a patient asking for a second opinion. In fact, I would say, I encourage my patients. I say, listen, if you have questions and you…if you would like to get someone else’s perspective, please do so. I want that, and I want you to come back to me with potentially a different option or a question that my hope is to answer.

We have a shared goal of making sure our patients have the best possible clinical outcome. That is our north star. So as new treatments and strategies emerge, try to stay informed. There are multiple platforms available, of course, via the Internet, for example. I will just be cautious in saying not all of that information is accurate. So if you’re going to use a platform that’s publicly available, the web, make sure that you’re trying to go to areas where a resource is vetted and reliable.

The National Cancer Network, the NCCN, the National Cancer Institute, clinicaltrials.gov for clinical trials, vetted and established advocacy organizations, and then taking that information, using it as a foundation in which you can build upon when you have conversations with your providers. But again, this is where I think not just the patient alone, but patient, family, and friends can really work together to try to develop.

And all of our meetings, the cancer meetings that we have, for example, for gynecologic cancer as a Society of Gynecologic Oncology, there’s a foundation for women’s cancer. There are opportunities for education, the American Society of Clinical Oncology. These are publicly available resources, websites where you can go to and look for patient facing material to make informed decisions about the management of your cancers.  And, of course, when you’re asking to talk about clinical trials, how do I stay up to date? Again, it’s a dialogue. It’s never too early to ask. I worry sometimes that patients don’t want to bring up a clinical trial, because they fear that bringing that up means that they’ve exhausted all treatment strategies.

Quite contrary to that, the earlier you begin the conversation, the greater opportunity you’re going to have to potentially identify a clinical trial for which you may be eligible. And that will help you through your treatment paradigm. Because if you don’t, you may pass that up, because you’re no longer eligible, because you’ve had too many prior lines of treatment, for example. And having that conversation early will also help you prepare as you go through the treatment paradigm so that if you need to make a decision about potentially enrolling in a trial, you’re established, you’re ready to do so rather than trying to effectively push this forward quickly without making sure that you have the required information that you need.

So it’s a multi-pronged approach. It’s going to require support systems, undoubtedly, multiple resources are available, and then subsequently engaging those resources to use that information to guide your conversations.

My activation tip is be informed. Explore your options and opportunities. Again, there are strategies that are available to you both on the Internet, publicly available, but also through colleagues, through friends, and a network that you can build through support groups, even at your institutions. It’s never too early to ask about clinical trials so that you can make sure you’re educated and informed as you look to make decisions. Because if you try to take all of this into consideration and at one time point, it can be a little bit overwhelming.

Lisa Hatfield:

Okay. Thank you so much. And I really appreciate your comment about it’s okay to talk to your provider about getting a second opinion. I was terrified of that, because I really love my doctor. He is great. And I didn’t want to bring that up, but anybody who’s watching this, Dr. Eskander said it’s okay to talk to your provider about seeking out a second opinion.

And it may help in your care in making decisions too. So I appreciate that you said that. And also that you said to make sure you go to vetted sites for information. When I was diagnosed with blood cancer, the first place I went to that I wasn’t supposed to was Google, got all kinds of information that I didn’t want to read. So go to those vetted sites. I think that’s great advice. So thank you so much.

Dr. Ramez Eskander:

Thank you, Lisa.

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“…we have to be committed to this. This is not just a patient issue. This is an issue that is shared, a responsibility that’s shared across institutions, clinicians. I would strongly suggest that patients advocate for themselves. Don’t be afraid to ask questions. Try to determine what resources might be available to assist if you are facing particular obstacles to help mitigate some of the barriers that may impact treatment in this era.”

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Eskander, what are some common barriers that patients with endometrial cancers face in accessing care, especially in underrepresented communities?

Dr. Ramez Eskander:

The issue around access to care and disparities in care is an important one. And I will say that as we move to this world of more molecular testing, identifying changes in the tumor or in genetic findings that predispose patients to potentially responding to therapies, there’s concern that it may increase disparities in cancer outcome. And that’s because is everybody getting access to tumor testing? Is everybody getting access to genetic testing? Are they informed? Are they educated about the implications?

This is so complex, and I think, Lisa, we could talk for an hour just about the issues surrounding barriers to care disparities and outcome. I will say that the goal is to make sure that all patients have access to these important tests. The goal is to make sure that all patients are educated to the same capacity. Understanding that health literacy can vary quite substantially so that we can work to try to develop more equitable treatment approaches and improve clinical outcomes across the board.

Do we see barriers? Absolutely. It could be barriers related to language. It could be barriers related to travel that a patient may not be able to travel the distance needed to see the provider or the specialist that can provide them the treatment that they need, or the counseling. It could be copay costs, can be prohibitive, it could be concern, trust issues around, do I want to get genetic testing? I’m worried this information is going to be used against me rather than help inform my cancer treatment strategy.

So it’s layered. It’s multi-pronged. There are several initiatives that are being deployed at different centers to try to improve and break down these barriers so that we can help patients overcome. And these could be social workers, patient navigators, case managers that reach out to these patients, resources that are available to facilitate transfer transportation, and bridge gaps that some of these patients might be facing.

And this is just in standard of care, completely independent of the barriers that patients face when they look to enroll in a clinical trial, for example, for treatment of their cancers. My [ACT]IVATION tip is we have to be committed to this. This is not just a patient issue. This is an issue that is shared, a responsibility that’s shared across institutions, clinicians. I would strongly suggest that patients advocate for themselves. Don’t be afraid to ask questions. Try to determine what resources might be available to assist if you are facing particular obstacles to help mitigate some of the barriers that may impact treatment in this era.

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“…be informed. Ask the right questions. Make sure that you understand your treatment options for every stage of your disease. It is never too early to talk to your clinician or provider about clinical trial opportunities. It is never too early to talk to your provider about what systemic or chemotherapeutic or targeted therapies are available to you if you do recur so that you can begin to make informed decisions and plan towards management of these cancers.”

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Eskander, even with recent advancements, what are some of the biggest challenges still facing patients with gynecologic cancers? And how can patients face these challenges head-on in order to get the best possible care?

Dr. Ramez Eskander: T

he management of ovarian cancer and endometrial cancer has really dramatically changed over the last several years, principally because of discoveries of effective treatments. And that’s also motivated by our understanding of the molecular drivers of these cancers. We’re learning more and more about what abnormalities on a molecular or genetic level may exist in these cancers that can inform treatment. When we think about the challenges, despite these advancements, it’s really focused primarily on the fact that we still deal with patients whose disease recurs after treatment.

So, for example, with ovarian cancer, patients have surgery and chemotherapy at diagnosis. And sometimes you start with chemotherapy and do surgery, followed by additional chemotherapy. And sometimes you do surgery, followed by chemotherapy. And that’s a decision that’s made based on multiple factors. Patients receive treatment, as I alluded to in the front line. But unfortunately, despite the advances that we’ve made in molecular testing and in therapeutics, a large proportion of patients with advanced stage disease may develop disease recurrence.

And in the context of disease recurrence, it’s difficult to achieve prolonged remission. So what we deal with is disease that is in remission for a period of time after primary therapy. And if that ovarian cancer recurs, that subsequent remission may be shorter than the primary remission. Now we can go into a lot of detailed conversations about what drugs we’ve identified to be effective in different disease settings.

And as I alluded to, we’ve made significant strides, but we still need to do better and identify more effective treatments, both in the front-line and in the recurrent setting. And I am very passionate about clinical trials, which are essentially the foundation in which we’ve identified effective treatment strategies that are now FDA-approved. And so I really want to empower patients who are dealing with advanced stage ovarian cancer diagnosis, really understand what your options are, understand whether or not you’re eligible for clinical trials in the face of a disease recurrence. 

Some of these studies are limited to specific time intervals during therapy or limited based on the number of prior treatments. And you want to have options available for you. And those options are going to be available by asking questions at these different phases of your treatment so that you can make sure that you’re making the most informed decision. And it’s the same thing with endometrial cancer. A large proportion of our patients are diagnosed with early stage disease that is successfully managed with surgery. Sometimes radiation is required. There are patients with advanced stage disease who are needing chemotherapy.

And again, in those circumstances, in the face of disease recurrence, we need more effective treatment strategies. Recently, we’ve incorporated immunotherapy plus chemotherapy in the management of advanced stage or recurrent endometrial cancer patients. Progressing after that leaves us with more limited options for which there are many clinical trials that are active in accruing patients to offer more effective treatment opportunities.

So my [ACT]IVATION tip in the context of this question is be informed. Ask the right questions. Make sure that you understand your treatment options for every stage of your disease. It is never too early to talk to your clinician or provider about clinical trial opportunities. It is never too early to talk to your provider about what systemic or chemotherapeutic or targeted therapies are available to you if you do recur so that you can begin to make informed decisions and plan towards management of these cancers.

Lisa Hatfield:

And I have a quick follow-up question to that, because you mentioned clinical trials, and I know you’re an advocate for patients seeking a second opinion. So if a patient who lives in an area where maybe there are not a lot of clinical trials, would like more information on that. And I live in an area where we don’t have a lot of clinical trials, and I have a great local oncologist, and he does a great job. But if I wanted to reach out and ask a specialist like you, a one-time consult, maybe, what are my options for a clinical trial? Can a patient do that? Can they do like a one-time consult with a specialist?

Dr. Ramez Eskander:

That is an excellent question. There are specific rules around what providers can do. And I will venture to say I’m not an expert in those rules. I’ll give you a pragmatic example. There are rules that will not allow a provider to have a clinic visit virtually with someone who’s outside of their state. So, it does set some boundaries. Now, what I will say, and you alluded to this already, Lisa, which is talk to your provider. That is a very great starting point.

If you feel like you’re not making as much progress, there are really amazing advocacy organizations that have capacity to help patients make these decisions, whether it’s organizations regionally or if it’s national organizations. I will just say also if you go to clinicaltrials.gov, it’s a website that’s available to us all and you type in a diagnosis like ovarian cancer or endometrial cancer, and you search for Phase III clinical trials, it will provide you with contact information for sites and you can look by sites in your state or regionally.

And I know it can feel daunting to do that. And that’s part of the reason that I’m such a big advocate for second opinions is because when patients are being treated for a cancer diagnosis, searching for your own clinical trial without any real guidance can feel like information overload. So it’s for me, reach out to your primary provider, utilize any advocacy groups that are in your region or national advocacy groups, such as the Ovarian Cancer Research Alliance or the Clearity Foundation. There are many others that can help patients kind of navigate for ovarian cancer diagnosis or second opinions. And then do your homework and try to identify whether or not there’s a provider who might be of greater assistance.

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How does the treatment of advanced endometrial cancer prognosis differ from other gynecological cancers? Expert Dr. Charlotte Gamble from MedStar Health shares common challenges that she’s seen with her patients and patient advice to help optimize their care. 

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“…I always encourage patients, and when I meet with them for the first time, I ask them, who is your main support person? And if they’re not here right now, let’s actually get them on the phone. They need to be involved from the start to understand this hurdle that you’re going to be going through over the next several months.”

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Gamble, how does advanced endometrial cancer differ from other gynecological cancers in terms of treatment of prognosis, and what lifestyle changes can help improve outcomes for patients with advanced endometrial cancer?

This is such a heavy question, so necessary. I think that, classically what we’re taught is that endometrial cancer is very curable, very treatable.  

All you need is a hysterectomy and surgery, and then you’ll be done. But what we see, and specifically in my work, and I take care of mostly Black or African American patients, is that, there are certain types of cancers specifically that are a little bit more prevalent in the, African American community within endometrial cancers that are more aggressive, that need not only surgery, but need chemotherapy and might, because they’re more aggressive, patients come and are already at like stage III or sometimes stage IV, when they’re actually being diagnosed, not due to any sort of delay and recognizing their symptoms or delay in diagnosis, but literally when their symptoms occurred, they were already stage IV. And this is a really, really, really challenging space to be in.

And historically also very challenging because again, as I mentioned, endometrial cancer is one of the least, if not the least funded cancers of the National Cancer Institute in terms of clinical trials. And so there have not been, historically a lot of options for patients who have advanced stage endometrial cancer,  aside from our classic chemotherapy drugs with carboplatin (Paraplatin) and paclitaxel (Abraxane) take six cycles. You see how things go and maybe these patients get radiation. And so it’s been a very challenging space to be in over the past couple of years. 

As I mentioned, these new immunotherapy drugs are really, giving us a lot of hope and very exciting space, now to see how these novel immunotherapy drugs help to maybe change some of those prognostic factors for patients. But it’s a tougher diagnosis. The survival is not as good as someone who has early stage non-aggressive endometrial cancer.

And so, not only do patients get their surgery, but they’re also getting the chemotherapy. And now, oftentimes getting immunotherapy onto this, and immunotherapy continues after the chemotherapy for oftentimes up to three years. And so patients are on treatment for a lot longer. I think that, you know, in terms of lifestyle changes, again, there’s not a lot of research in this area.

Traditionally, we think of, endometrial cancer as a cancer that is, that can occur more frequently in patients who are overweight, or have elevated BMIs. And so, their cardiovascular health is actually very important. And so lifestyle changes to address their cardiovascular health is going to be much more beneficial than anything else, that occurs. But what I unfortunately see in my practice is that you, might, your heart might be just fine, but if you’ve got cancer that’s in your lungs or in your upper abdomen or in your bones, when you’re diagnosed, that kind of takes over everything, and it’s very difficult to treat.

 I think what is important when I personally think about lifestyle factors and, advanced stage of endometrial cancer, is trying to maintain a healthy enough lifestyle and adequate strength to get through the necessary treatments, that are really tough with chemotherapy and immunotherapy. And so the healthier a patient is when they’re diagnosed, the stronger they are through their treatments, the better able that they’re able to maintain their nutrition and as, moderate amount of exercise during their treatments, the better they are able to get through their treatments in a timely fashion.

And a lot of this can be also tied to the amount of support that patients have in their lives. If someone is isolated and has very little, family or friends that are able to be there for them, it’s a much harder mental barrier to get through all of this aggressive treatment than someone who might, have patient or patient advocates with them or friends or family members that are always around.

So I always encourage patients, and when I meet with them for the first time, I ask them, who is your main support person? And if they’re not here right now, let’s actually get them on the phone. They need to be involved from the start to understand this hurdle that you’re going to be going through over the next several months.

So I always tell folks that, you know, I’ll take care of all the medical stuff, I’ll do the surgery, and I’ll run the chemotherapy, and me and my nurse navigator will be able to handle all the medical things. And so you don’t need to worry about that. But the psychological burden this takes, the mental and emotional burden this takes is going to be something that is really going to be much more in the patient’s control and much more in your control as you get through this.

And so finding your support structures and making them, making sure they’re involved from the very start is very, very critical. One of the trials that we have open here, at my health system is looking at the role for increasing social support for patients who are Black, who have advanced stage endometrial cancer and seeing what forms of social support, if that’s group therapy or if that’s one-to-one, peer survivor support or just additional information, if that actually can, which one of those might be the best and help patients get through their therapies. And that’s a trial that’s run by Dr. Doll out of University of Washington.

Advanced endometrial cancer is a tough diagnosis to have, and the survival outcomes, although changing rapidly with the introduction of immunotherapy drugs, are, still a challenge. The lifestyle changes, it really comes to, you know, what patients can do to get through their treatment in a timely fashion. But I think the role of social support and having people that can carry patients through and get them through this tough time is central to this question.


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What are key challenges and solutions to gynecologic oncology research disparities? Expert Dr. Charlotte Gamble from MedStar Health shares specific factors that show up in research disparities and proactive advice to healthcare providers and researchers to help close the disparity gaps.

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“…for healthcare providers and researchers, is that we have to think about action and what, the evidence-based strategies are to help directly affect the disparate outcomes we see in America for our patients with cancers and to center patients and their concerns within these research questions.”

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Gamble, what are the key challenges regarding the current paradigm of disparities research and gynecologic oncology, and what steps are proposed to overcome these challenges? And what is the role of the patient? 

Dr. Charlotte Gamble:

I love this question. This is such a great question because this is like my happy space and where I live, when I’m not taking care of patients directly and kind of where my research interests lie. So to take each question, each question, each part of this question, what are the key challenges regarding the current paradigm of what’s called disparities research? So I think a couple of challenges. One, historically disparities research just meant like looking and seeing what these patient outcomes were and who lived longer and, oh, no, it looks like Black patients are not living as long as white patients, and it looks like poor patients aren’t living as long as rich patients.

And it looks like patients who are living rurally don’t live as long as patients who live in the cities. And so just finding differences and seeing kind of how, again, this critical race practice and how the systems and structures in the United States have contributed or might contribute to these differences that we’re seeing, has classically and historically been easy low hanging fruit.

You look at these large cancer databases, you look at the SEER database, the National Cancer database as well, and can get, pull all these statistics and come up with pretty graphs that just show really wide disparities in Black versus white and versus Hispanic versus non-Hispanic and just say, hey, there are differences and people who are historically marginalized or vulnerable just don’t do as well, which is, okay, fine and good and maybe necessary to have that data to know where we’re starting from. But a challenging in that is that just shows some associations. There is not necessarily causation. There is no attempt to fix the system. It’s merely just stating these are where, this is where we’re at. And at this point, frankly, in 2024 and honestly for the past 15 to 20 years, it’s not anything new. It’s nothing that’s surprising.

 Like these have been trends that have been pretty ingrained in this social system and healthcare system that we have in the United States. And so doing kind of disparities that just discusses these differences is a little bit outdated at this point. I think, to answer the second part of that question, what are steps proposed to overcome these challenges? Really moving into, okay, so these differences are there, what are we going to do? So what are these solutions? What are the evidence-based solutions to these differences in how we overcome? So that spans anything from looking at sometimes the molecular tumor makeup that might be different based on ancestry or maybe based on exposure to racism. How does exposure to racism and or stress and over a lifetime influence cancer biology?

If someone has been minoritized and has been exposed to stress because of this for their entire lives, does that change their cancer risk or change the type of cancer they have or change how when they are diagnosed with cancer, how they respond to treatment. None of this has really been very aggressively studied within the gynecologic cancer space.  Some of this within the breast cancer space has been looked at, but not very much with the gynecologic cancers.

But then also importantly in this space that I love to live in is, okay, so like, how are we going to overcome the barriers that we discussed earlier? How do we get patients into the healthcare system a little bit earlier when they have abnormal symptoms? How do we get them to a subspecialist if they have transportation barriers, insurance barriers, health system barriers, and how do we actually address what we already know is the problem if they face delays in care, how do we shorten those intervals so they get timely care? And those are harder questions.

It’s harder to publish, it’s harder to get these studies done. They’re really messy. And I think that, there’s a lot of need to actually look at how the system is working or not working for patients and actually doing evidence-based strategies that we know, ie for example, care navigation to help improve the timeliness of care that patients receive.

To answer, and this dovetails well into the third part of the question, which is what is the role of the patient? This is critical because as we start thinking about actually designing interventions to work or to address these barriers, to care, to influence disparities and outcomes, of, patients with these cancers, patients are the center of what we do, and they have to be the center of the research, and they cannot be consulted on the back end after someone has come up with a very pretty project that sounds really nice and like can get funded easily.

 They have to be at the center at the start of the project. And so I think it’s really important to center voices of patients in designing research protocols, center them in designing clinical trials, center them in designing community-based outreach programs. This has to, not only come from patients, but feel like it is a patient almost run program. And, I think Kemi Doll really in the gynecologic cancer space, has, been a fierce advocate for, including patients and centering patients and, having patients lead as opposed to follow, as opposed to being adjacent to the project, but being really central to it and to its functioning.

And so when we think about the interventions, when we think about the research questions that are yet unanswered, oftentimes these answers as well as the, logistics of how to get these programs done lies within patients, their communities, their loved ones themselves, and failure to involve them early in the process is a failure of the research project in general. I think my activation to this question is actually for healthcare providers and researchers, is that we have to think about action and what, the evidence-based strategies are to help directly affect the disparate outcomes we see in America for our patients with cancers and to center patients and their concerns within these research questions.


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How Can Gynecologic Oncology Racial Disparities Be Addressed?

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What are some ways that gynecologic oncology racial disparities might be addressed? Expert Dr. Charlotte Gamble from MedStar Health discusses racial inequities in care on different levels and how to start reducing disparities.

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“…understanding how race, racism intertwine with cancer outcomes and access to care, the role that underrepresentation of Black patients on clinical trials has had on the novel therapeutic developments and where these survival gaps worsen when these new drugs are improved or introduced into the system. Because Black patients might not benefit significantly from them, because they have not been represented in the clinical trials as well as they might not have access to these drugs initially when they’re initially rolled out.”

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Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Gamble, could you elaborate on the racial inequities in cancer outcomes highlighted in your research, particularly with gynecologic oncology? The article or blog mentions the public health critical race practice, so the framework for understanding racial disparity in healthcare. So how can this framework be applied practically in addressing disparities within gynecologic oncology?

Dr. Charlotte Gamble:

Absolutely. I think within gynecologic oncology, again, addressing people who have cancers of the female reproductive tract, ovary, uterine endometrial, specifically within the uterine cancer space, cervical cancer and vulvar cancers. We have multiple levels of racial inequities. When we talk about what cancer outcomes are, these are things like recurrence rates. How quickly does the cancer come back after it’s been treated for the first time? Survival outcomes. So what proportion of patients who have this cancer are living at 5 years? Surgical complications, at 30 days, how many patients had a stroke? How many patients had to be readmitted? How many patients had a blood clot? And so there are definitely different levels of cancer outcomes within the cancer care in general. And what we see within gynecologic cancers is a couple of different things.

So historically within ovarian cancer, there was a thought that there was not too much in terms of survival. Survival outcomes is kind of by far the most commonly cited cancer outcome that is used as a benchmark in all cancer fields. And looking at five-year survival, basically, how what proportion of patients are alive with their cancer at five years. And historically ovarian cancer is, but thought to not have too much of a difference.

When we talk about basically Black, white racial disparities in the United States, although that has been kind of poked at over the past couple years, and there might actually be pretty significant differences when it comes to ovarian cancers and the regionality in part of the country and how long patients live with in general, because ovarian cancer is oftentimes diagnosed at such an advanced stage. Patients do overall, can overall have such significant issues with getting to that five-year overall survival, regardless of race, that again, everything that is influenced by race or the exposure to racism in this country might be washed out just basically because it’s really, really tough when someone has an advanced ovarian cancer diagnosis.

We do know that oftentimes patients who are Black or have been exposed to racism are less often likely to get surgeries, are sometimes more or less likely to get standard of care chemotherapy. And within the ovarian cancer space, over the past 10 years, we really now frequently use genetic testing and the availability of a drug called PARP inhibitor, a targeted oral chemotherapy drug that is used after someone has completed their initial rounds of chemotherapy to help improve their survival. That had really wonderful results about 10 years ago based on several international trials. The challenge though, is when we have novel therapeutics or novel drugs that we give to patients based on really amazing clinical trials, the patients who are most likely to get it are patients who have higher access to care, who might be a little bit more affluent.

And oftentimes this is disproportionately white patients in the United States. And so some of these racial disparities widen for a bit after novel therapeutics are introduced into the system. When it comes to cervical cancer, what we’ve seen historically, is that this is a cancer that is entirely preventable and entirely through a combination of a lot of screening with Pap smears as well as the HPV vaccine. And historically, again, it tends to be disenfranchised, historically marginalized or minoritized patients that might not complete their HPV vaccination series or be able to get the regular Pap smears because their lives end up being pulled in several different directions. And so they end up getting diagnosed with a cervical cancer that is entirely preventable in 2024, as we just saw this young influencer die of an advanced stage cervical cancer. Things like that really shouldn’t happen.

And again, this, the underlying driver of this, we mentioned the critical race practice, is that race or racism is an underlying driver for everything that happens in the United States based on historical issues in this country. And the patients who are disproportionately affected by this tend to be Black minoritized patients. And so that manifests itself in terms of access to Pap smears, access to HPV vaccination screening. In terms of the endometrial cancer space, I love the example that Dr. Kemi Doll uses that really thinking about endometrial cancer is thinking about reproductive health for women and the continuum of thinking about not only the maternal mortality issues that we see for women of reproductive age.

And this extends into postmenopausal women who are disproportionately affected by high risk, aggressive types, advanced stages of endometrial cancer. And so having endometrial cancer as a continuum of reproductive healthcare and involving that in the maternal mortality conversation is a really, I think, helpful way to frame that, that she’s propagated over the past several years.

And so, when we think about endometrial cancers, one of the things that I mentioned earlier is we have these lovely clinical trials that have shown really amazing improvements in overall survival. The kind of nuance to that though is one, these trials weren’t entirely fully representative of the diverse patient population we care for in the United States. There were not enough Black patients in those trials by any means.

Two, the, those new novel immunotherapy drugs work incredibly well in a subset of patients with endometrial cancer, who have what’s called mismatch repair deficient cancers. It’s just a kind of a specific subset of the molecular profile of these endometrial cancers. And these drugs are almost a golden ticket for these patients and really extend survival. And it’s amazing. What is very concerning is that for Black women, the rates of this mismatch repair cancer is not as prevalent.

And so Black women oftentimes have less frequent mutations that will work with these therapeutic drugs. And what I’m very concerned about might happen is that as these drugs are now the golden ticket for a lot of these advanced stage endometrial cancers that specifically have this mutational difference mismatch repair deficiency, Black women might be left behind because the rate of having a mismatched repair deficiency is less for them, and these drugs might not work as well.

And I’m very concerned that we might see a widening in the racial disparities in these cancer outcomes, specifically survivorship for endometrial cancer. As these immunotherapy drugs are increasingly used in clinical practice, even though we use them for all patients, it’s, they work best in a subtype of patients that are oftentimes disproportionately not Black. And I very much worry that we’re going to start seeing a widening in the survival gap as they did for melanoma, when there were novel drugs that address a melanoma treatment pathways that disproportionately did not work well in Black patients.

In terms of activation tip for this question, oh, I think it’s important to take this question in the historical context of this country and understanding how race, racism intertwine with cancer outcomes and access to care, the role that underrepresentation of Black patients on clinical trials has had on the novel therapeutic developments and where these survival gaps worsen when these new drugs are improved or introduced into the system. Because Black patients might not benefit significantly from them, because they have not been represented in the clinical trials as well as they might not have access to these drugs initially when they’re initially rolled out.


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How Is Gynecological Cancer Care Impacted by Social Determinants of Health?

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How can social determinants of health impact gynecological cancer care? Expert Dr. Charlotte Gamble from MedStar Health explains common factors that can present barriers to care and some resulting impacts to patient care.

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Gamble, how do social determinants of health potentially influence the quality of care received by patients with gynecologic cancers?

Dr. Charlotte Gamble:

Yeah, another really wonderful question and an area of research that people have looked at for a long time. I think when we think about social determinants of health, we have to define what they are, right? So these are going to be aspects of people’s lives that might not be specifically health related, but absolutely influence the ability to access healthcare, the ability to complete treatment regimens, the ability to be able to get support and survive these treatment regimens and continue in survivorship.

So think when we, when I specifically think about social determinants of health and gynecologic cancers and encompassing the ovarian cancers, cervical cancers, endometrial cancers and vulvar cancers. We see multiple things. So in general, these cancers are affecting people who have the female reproductive tract. So this is going to be oftentimes people that identify as women, but also can include trans men.

And so there’s also like a gender component of this and how people identify. And for the trans community, there are barriers everywhere in terms of how they can access gynecologic care and the stigma that might be associated with providing trans healthcare in general that affect them specifically. When we talk about women or people who have identified as women and who also have a female reproductive tract, there comes into place how women in general and historically have been able to access healthcare and the barriers that they might face in communities.

Women generally tend to be the providers of healthcare or the providers of childcare and have several responsibilities in taking care of their families and communities. And in so far, doing tend to downplay their own healthcare and prioritizing their own well-being to be able to care for those who they love, who surround them and are stretched thin.

And so because of that, we oftentimes see delays in seeking access to healthcare because women tend to be pulled in so many different directions by their communities. Other times what we see is things that I’ve mentioned previously in terms of insurance barriers and either not having insurance. So for patients who are undocumented immigrants, this tends to be a massive issue. I’ve had patients myself that we’ve had to work tirelessly for, to be able to get them insurance. And this is in the nation’s capital where insurance, even for undocumented people, tends to be a little bit easier to access than in other places. And it’s been a huge challenge and delay their care by months. And this directly correlates with survival and how patients do on the back end of things. But even having insurance that is, that is, doesn’t, might not cover everything that’s needed, and there might be large copays associated with visits or treatment plans.

This is an area that there’s a lot of room to improve in the United States, and a real macro issue. But when it comes to also things like transportation and living in a food desert and not having healthy groceries and nutritional options that for patients who have endometrial cancer, that oftentimes if it’s a low grade non-aggressive cancer, they’re going to do fine from a cancer standpoint, but it’s the cardiovascular issues and the possible severe obesity they might suffer from. And that is an issue that patients who live in food deserts or live in places that they can’t access sidewalks and ability to live healthy lives in their neighborhood will really suffer from not being able to have those determinants of health work in their favor.

And then we also have issues within health systems. And we see that for patients who live in conditions that are historically considered impoverished, they might not be able to make it to the beautiful National Cancer Institute designated cancer center, seeing this most subspecialist and having access to five clinical trials and a case navigator and a care navigator and a social worker to help them through the social issues that they might be seeking care with a community practice that could itself be underfunded or not linked to strong cancer institute options.

And so that’s another kind of systems level that we see where patients are seeking care that they might not be able to actually get to the subspecialists that they need, or health systems that are resourced enough to help them in their lives. So that’s a very long-winded question, [laughter] because it’s such a massive issue. But it, social determinants of health affect everything in the cancer continuum from a timely diagnosis and being able to recognize abnormal symptoms to being able to get into a doctor’s office, to be able to get to a subspecialist that is has expertise in the area to be able to complete therapies on time and to be able to eat healthy food and have a healthy lifestyle after one has gone through all these major treatments. It’s a massive issue and something that we see in every single health condition in the United States.

That is the most excellent comprehensive response to barriers, obstacles, stigmas that I’ve ever heard regarding accessing quality of care for cancer patients. Any cancer patient is going to benefit from your response to that. So thank you. 


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Are Beauty Products a Risk Factor for Endometrial Cancer?

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Do some beauty products pose a risk factor for endometrial cancer? Expert Dr. Charlotte Gamble from MedStar Health discusses studies that investigated endometrial cancer risk and beauty products that may be a risk factor.

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Transcript:

Lisa Hatfield:

Dr. Gamble, there are often questions around the use of hair products and gynecological cancers. Can you speak to this and whether there are any correlations or risk factors with the use of these hair products?

Dr. Charlotte Gamble:

Absolutely. This is also an area of some controversy, and the data has yet to really be accepted or validated. And it’s, I think, an area that needs so much additional research. So, you know, within the past few years, there have been a few major studies that have looked at patients, looking back at patients who have then developed endometrial cancer and seeing what kind of risk factors they might have had compared to patients who didn’t develop endometrial cancers. And looking at the types of patients within these studies, there are some subtle differences that need to be addressed.

The overall conclusion from these studies was that the frequent use of hair straightener products might increase the risk or is associated, I should say, with a risk of developing uterine or endometrial cancer. But the nuances within how these studies were conducted and which populations they were done in, I think deserves a little bit of detail and insight.

One of the major studies was done in a cohort group of patients who had actually close family members who had breast cancer. And so this is actually a very specific type of patient population where they were already at somewhat of an increased risk of developing a type of a cancer, because they had a relative that had breast cancer. And in this cohort of patients, they found that the frequent use of hair straightener products was associated with a higher likelihood of developing uterine cancer.

The kind of challenges I have with this is not only the patient population looking at it being predominantly groups of folks who already have a relative with a cancer, but then also the cohort itself is predominantly Caucasian or white, with 85 percent being white and a very small percentage of those patients being Black. And it’s hard to actually draw conclusions based on that, again, with just not a great representation of Black women who can be frequent users of hair straightener products.

And then there are nuances of like, what is a hair straightener product? What does that mean? Is that a chemical relaxer? Is that a Brazilian? And how does that actually affect the endometrial cancer risk? And we don’t know. Again, it’s a correlation, an association, but not a causation. The other study was done in a cohort of patients who were Black in the Black Women’s Health Study. And so it was a much better representation of patients that I take care of and are at risk of endometrial cancer. And the challenge with this study was that there are several different nuances and kind of when the cancer occurred and if it was pre-menopausal, before menopause or after menopause and the type of cancers they were.  And I think a lot of this data is pretty compelling that there’s probably some degree of an association.

But it’s very difficult to know how that actually relates to the type of cancers that we see most frequently in Black women, which are aggressive, non-hormonally responsive cancers that might not have any sort of risk that’s tied to hair straightener products that generally do a hormonal cascade. So my activation tip for this question is we do not know. The jury is out. There are some initial studies that look at this association and for patients and how they take care of their hair. If patients have a concern about hair straightener products in general, then maybe it’s time to start avoiding them. But if it’s something that is really important to you and is a crux of who you are as a human being, then I’m not sure we have enough data to say you should absolutely avoid this, and this is contributing to your cancer risk.


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