What Do Breast Cancer Patients Need to Know About COVID?

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Due to COVID-19, many patients with breast cancer have faced new challenges when it comes to receiving care. Dr. Lisa Flaum addresses precautions when receiving care, and the role of telemedicine in virtual care. 

Dr. Lisa Flaum is a Medical Oncologist at the Robert H. Lurie Comprehensive Cancer Center of Northwestern University. Learn more here.

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Transcript:

Dr. Flaum:                  

Right, so COVID has introduced challenges for all of us, for cancer patients specifically. However, we have not typically altered our recommendations for appropriately treating patients based on COVID. So, any of the treatments that would be appropriate are still appropriate, and for most patients, I’m recommending that they follow the guidelines that they are likely following otherwise. I think that a lot of the precautions that are put in place from a COVID standpoint, which are people are washing their hands, and sanitizing, and wearing masks, and keeping distance, and not socializing and big crowds, all of those things are already helping our patients and certainly prevent COVID, but also prevent all the normal stuff that people are typically exposed to when they’re going through a cancer diagnosis.

What I tell people is that they’re already probably going above and beyond what we would have recommended in a normal setting of metastatic cancer. Although they’re likely at a little higher risk, depending on what they’re receiving, than the general population, for the most part, patients have done well and we have not seen an excess number of COVID cases in our patient population. Again, it’s likely because people are doing the right things anyway, COVID or not COVID, and certainly regardless of their cancer diagnosis.

I guess the one change or the changes that we’ve made is implementing a little more tele-medicine versus in person visits when it’s appropriate. So, there are things that we can accomplish over the phone in terms of managing side effects and asking how patients are doing.

Obviously we can’t do an exam, we can’t do imaging, but a number of things can take place over the phone and we’ve made accommodations in terms of some of that to allow for patients to stay out of the hospital setting as much as possible.

In some situations, it has impacted decision making if there’s a choice between one treatment and another, and one is more aggressive or more suppressing of the immune system, if you’re going to weigh the normal pros and cons and we’re always going to throw COVID into the mix. Well, if you’ve got this particular treatment, your immune system shouldn’t be as suppressed, you don’t have to come in as often, you don’t require an IV. So, the variables definitely come into play, but certainly COVID doesn’t prohibit us from choosing any given option, but it affects some of the discussion in most cases.

Are You Prepared for Your Breast Cancer Appointment? Expert Tips.

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Could you be better prepared for your breast cancer appointment? Breast cancer specialist, Dr. Lisa Flaum reviews helpful tools that can help ensure patients get the most out of their doctor visit.

Dr. Lisa Flaum is a Medical Oncologist at the Robert H. Lurie Comprehensive Cancer Center of Northwestern University. Learn more here.

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Transcript:

Dr. Flaum:                  

I think they should think ahead of time about what issues are most important to them, have a list of questions, whatever they might be. And hopefully, our job, if we’re doing it well, is to answer the questions that the patients don’t even necessarily know to ask. So, I think that the important thing is not so much a specific question, but getting your questions answered, sort of walking out of that initial visit at least with a preliminary understanding of what your diagnosis is, what the implications are, what the decision making is regarding treatment. And understanding why your doctor is choosing the treatment that they’re choosing or recommending and what your alternatives are.

And I think knowing what the balance is. So, not just, okay, you’re choosing this because you think it’s most effective, but then how do you balance it with quality of life, with side effects, and with all the other variables that go into that choice. Patients have different perspectives in terms of how much information they want, in terms of the bigger picture. Do people want information about prognosis? Is that even answerable at an initial visit? So, a lot of it differs in terms of what the patient’s desires are and where you are in the workup to know how best to answer those as well.

The other thing I would say about preparation for a visit is, it’s important to have someone with you, either in-person or remotely given the circumstances. So, an initial visit with a medical oncologist can be overwhelming and having a second set of ears and eyes and someone to take notes so you can listen, is really helpful. Because often patients walk out of that visit forgetting everything that was said, or at least not comprehending all of it immediately. So, always having another set of ears or eyes listening is really important.

Should You See a Breast Cancer Specialist?

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As breast cancer treatment options continue to expand, it’s important to partner with a physician who is up to date on the latest developments. Dr. Lisa Flaum explains why patients should consider seeking a specialist and obtaining a second opinion.

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Transcript:

Dr. Flaum:                  

So, in terms of who you should see as a medical oncologist and whether you need a breast cancer-specific specialist. I do think it’s a good idea for the majority of patients do at least have an opinion with someone who specializes in breast cancer. Increasingly, cancer diagnoses of all kinds, and breast cancer specifically is becoming more complex. There’s a lot of variables that guide treatment, and it’s important to have someone on board who’s up to date on the latest knowledge treatments, clinical trials if indicated.

Sometimes it makes sense to see a breast cancer specialist, but potentially get your care with whoever is more easily accessible in terms of an oncologist closer to home, if that makes sense. But to at least start with an opinion by someone, from someone who specializes in breast cancer.

I think the patients should seek a second opinion when they think it’s appropriate. And it’s often appropriate; even if it’s just for peace of mind to know that what you’re hearing from your initial visit is, if there’s agreement amongst specialists. Most doctors, I can speak for myself personally, do not get their feelings hurt when someone asks for a second opinion and often I encourage it. I think it’s helpful from a patient peace of mind standpoint, and it’s even appropriate to ask your doctor if I’m going to seek a second opinion, is there somewhere you would recommend that I go. I think it’s appropriate if you have a doctor in a community practice and they may have a referral system of who they would refer to.

And even then from an academic standpoint, if someone asks me where they could or would go for an opinion, I would recommend colleagues at other institutions who I think would be appropriate. So, I think you have to advocate for yourself. You have to do what’s best for you. And number one, I don’t think feelings will get hurt. And number two, I don’t think that’s the reason to not get the care that is appropriate.

How Can a Breast Cancer Psychologist Help You?

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Dr. Kathleen Ashton shares advices for patients facing a breast cancer diagnosis, including tips for emotional coping, talking to friends and family, as well as utilizing support services.

Dr. Kathleen Ashton is a psychologist in the Breast Center, Digestive Disease and Surgery Institute at Cleveland Clinic. Learn more about Dr. Ashton, here

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Dr. Ashton:                

My name is Dr. Kathleen Ashton. I am a breast psychologist at the Cleveland Clinic Breast Center.

So, I work with breast cancer patients in a number of different ways. I work with patients when they’re first diagnosed in terms of adjusting to their diagnosis and managing treatments. I work with long-term survivors of breast cancer who might be dealing with symptom management or the emotional after effects of their cancer. And then, I work with metastatic breast cancer patients as well. 

Some of the common fear is that breast cancer patients experience are progression. They worry about how their disease is going to affect their family. They might worry about managing symptoms like fatigue and pain. And they also worry about their quality of life and maintaining the things that are most important to them.

When I work with patients who are worried about how metastatic breast cancer is going to affect their life, I often use two specific types of therapy.

One is called cognitive behavioral therapy which deals with the different thoughts that a patient might be having about their breast cancer as well as the different behaviors they might engage in that either help them or hurt them with their emotions. And then, the second type of therapy I often use is called acceptance and commitment therapy. And in particular, for metastatic breast cancer patients, this is a really helpful type of therapy that focuses on values, what gives people meaning in life, and whether their actions are in line with their values.

When metastatic breast cancer patients come to me for advice, one of the first things I usually tell them is that metastatic breast cancer is an emotional roller coaster.

There are ups and downs, there’s scans, there’s new types of treatment that they might be encountering and wondering about what the side effects are. So, what can be most helpful to those patients is really learning to stay in the present moment to, kind of, cope with things as they come and not look too far ahead, but also, be able to enjoy the moment that they’re going through.

When sharing their diagnosis with their family and friends, metastatic breast pit – breast cancer patients may experience just misunderstanding in what it means to have metastatic breast cancer. They may need to educate their family and friends that the goal of their treatment is often not a cure, but there are still treatments that can be helpful for them, and they can still maintain a good quality of life.

As a patient, if you’re interested in seeking a second opinion, it’s important to know that getting a second opinion is very normal with metastatic breast cancer. And your providers often are expecting this and would support that. So, just sharing with your provider your plan, the specific questions that you might have can help to facilitate communication between the two of you.

It’s important to know, as a breast cancer patient, that there are many resources to help deal with emotional issues. So, there are psychologists, psychiatrists, social workers who often have specific expertise in working with breast cancer patients. In addition, there are other resources such as cancer support communities, there are patient networks that help patients talk to each other.

There’s one called 4th Angel that we use a lot at the Cleveland Clinic that’s very helpful. And there’s alternative therapies as well, things like yoga, art therapy, music therapy that are all available to metastatic breast cancer patients.

When facing metastatic breast cancer, it’s important that patients know that they can lead meaningful lives, have close relationships, and have good quality of life. I also would add that, it’s important for them to know that mental health can be a part of their treatment team, that it’s common to have anxiety and depression, and just stress management concerns, and psychologists, psychiatrists, social workers all might be possibilities to add to their team to help them to have a good treatment outcome.